Chiefs A few thoughts on individual performances in tonights game....

**the Talking Can** · 08-16-2009, 08:14 AM

imo, the OL looked like last year: good to stong on the left side, below average to bad on the right...lj looked fine but it still seems like he's in a hurry and misses holes...

DL...ups and downs, weak in the middle...did dorsey do anything?

Hali was better than anyone expected...doesn't mean he'll be good, but he's exceeded very low expectations so far....

LBs made some plays but don't appear to be able to cover yet, will be a problem all year i imagine...Mays certainly stood out, need to see it continue...

I think Jackson looked strong but couldn't really tell with the pixelated feed

Flowers = Total Bad Ass...we need one of him at every level of the defense

Cassel was fine despite everyone's concern trolling...his passes were on target and if our back up WRs could catch we'd have gone some where...his scramble and pass to Ryan was nice, composed play...

Croyle looked solid, but can never quite seal the deal...very surprised to see him bounce back from the knee injury so fast

thigpen's talent is best displayed in the 4th quarters of preseason games...

our fg kicker has a leg stronger than the octomom's vag...

Bowe looked good and focused and no bs....he'll be first team soon if he isn't as we speak....point received...the concern trolling on this has been hilarious (see mecca, gamethread or whitlock)

Charles is the one really getting sent a message, i think (unless he's injured), but no notices or concern trolls about it...he had a couple of carries? clearly behind Battle at this point

pretty much what we we thought was a problem coming in was a problem: WR, NT, right side OL...

vanilla stuff, from which I learned - according to chiefs fans - that a) Thigpen should start b) Haley doesn't know Bowe is a good WR c) our offense is just like Herm's d) and that you can grade play calling in a preseason game....all in all a fine table setting for the season..

**Buehler445** · 08-16-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

DL...ups and downs, weak in the middle...did dorsey do anything?

Hali was better than anyone expected...doesn't mean he'll be good, but he's exceeded very low expectations so far....

Charles is the one really getting sent a message, i think (unless he's injured), but no notices or concern trolls about it...he had a couple of carries? clearly behind Battle at this point

Watching this for the first time this morning.

Dorsey just forced the OL to hold on him, that really helped out the play, FWIW.

WTF is with the D? They're stopping the run and can't stop the pass...Twilight zone.

Charles has been in to block on both 3rd downs. Don't really know what to think of that.

milkman · 08-16-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Watching this for the first time this morning.

Dorsey just forced the OL to hold on him, that really helped out the play, FWIW.

WTF is with the D? They're stopping the run and can't stop the pass...Twilight zone.

Charles has been in to block on both 3rd downs. Don't really know what to think of that.

Dorsey is getting penetration pretty consistently, even though he's getting double teams quite a bit.

Ron Edwards is absolute horseshit.

**the Talking Can** · 08-16-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Dorsey is getting penetration pretty consistently, even though he's getting double teams quite a bit.
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good to hear

**the Talking Can** · 08-16-2009, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Dorsey is getting penetration pretty consistently, even though he's getting double teams quite a bit.

Ron Edwards is absolute horseshit.

are you waching it again?

what do you think of the OL from center to RT?

milkman · 08-16-2009, 08:42 AM

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are you waching it again?

what do you think of the OL from center to RT?

This is my first time watching it, and I'm focusing specifically on Dorey and Edwards on defense, and Albert and MacIntosh on offense.

I'm recording it so I can focus on different players at another time.

What I've seen to this point is that Dorsey is hitting the B gap, and really giving Hali opportunities to make plays from his standup OLB position.

Edwards is absolute dogcrap.

Albert doen't look quite as strong as he did before he lost the weight, but still has the quick feet.

And MacIntosh looks a little quicker, but is still the suck overall.

**Buehler445** · 08-16-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This is my first time watching it, and I'm focusing specifically on Dorey and Edwards on defense, and Albert and MacIntosh on offense.

I'm recording it so I can focus on different players at another time.

What I've seen to this point is that Dorsey is hitting the B gap, and really giving Hali opportunities to make plays from his standup OLB position.

Edwards is absolute dogcrap.

Albert doen't look quite as strong as he did before he lost the weight, but still has the quick feet.

And MacIntosh looks a little quicker, but is still the suck overall.

The other thing I will add about Hali is that I have not seen him in coverage. Any reason Tyler isn't in there? Is Edwards....better?.....

milkman · 08-16-2009, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

The other thing I will add about Hali is that I have not seen him in coverage. Any reason Tyler isn't in there? Is Edwards....better?.....

I don't know.

I plan on watching Tyler when the second unit is on.

**the Talking Can** · 08-16-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

This is my first time watching it, and I'm focusing specifically on Dorey and Edwards on defense, and Albert and MacIntosh on offense.

I'm recording it so I can focus on different players at another time.

What I've seen to this point is that Dorsey is hitting the B gap, and really giving Hali opportunities to make plays from his standup OLB position.

Edwards is absolute dogcrap.

Albert doen't look quite as strong as he did before he lost the weight, but still has the quick feet.

And MacIntosh looks a little quicker, but is still the suck overall.

gracias

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-16-2009, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

are you waching it again?

what do you think of the OL from center to RT?

I had to turn it off.

Niswanger was meh.

Goff was downright bad.

McIntosh was McIntosh.

We didn't run the ball behind the right side of the line until AFTER Goff had left the game, and even then, the one time they did, Charles was stopped for a 1 yard gain.

It's only pre-season, but we're going to face much better defensive fronts than Houston in the regular season - better lock this shit up.

milkman · 08-16-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I had to turn it off.

Niswanger was meh.

Goff was downright bad.

McIntosh was McIntosh.

We didn't run the ball behind the right side of the line until AFTER Goff had left the game, and even then, the one time they did, Charles was stopped for a 1 yard gain.

It's only pre-season, but we're going to face much better defensive fronts than Houston in the regular season - better lock this shit up.

Din't pay close attention to Niswager, but he did look like he got completely abused on a couple of plays I noticed.

As for McIntohs, I just can't envision this FO and staff going into the season with him as the starter.

I will point out, however, that there was huge hole on the right side earlier in the game that LJ could have made one quick cut to if he had any vision, and as Big Rock said in anther thread, he'd still be running if he sees it.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-16-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Din't pay close attention to Niswager, but he did look like he got completely abused on a couple of plays I noticed.

As for McIntohs, I just can't envision this FO and staff going into the season with him as the starter.

I will point out, however, that there was huge hole on the right side earlier in the game that LJ could have made one quick cut to if he had any vision, and as Big Rock said in anther thread, he'd still be running if he sees it.

If you watch it a 2nd time, watch Goff.

Bad in the run game, terrible in the pass game. The majority of the pressure was coming from his man.

Rudy was OK in the run game, but was getting abused in pass protection.

**the Talking Can** · 08-16-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I had to turn it off.

Niswanger was meh.

Goff was downright bad.

McIntosh was McIntosh.

We didn't run the ball behind the right side of the line until AFTER Goff had left the game, and even then, the one time they did, Charles was stopped for a 1 yard gain.

It's only pre-season, but we're going to face much better defensive fronts than Houston in the regular season - better lock this shit up.

thanks, that confirms my fearful impressions...

**the Talking Can** · 08-16-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Watching this for the first time this morning.

Dorsey just forced the OL to hold on him, that really helped out the play, FWIW.

WTF is with the D? They're stopping the run and can't stop the pass...Twilight zone.

Charles has been in to block on both 3rd downs. Don't really know what to think of that.

thanks, couldn't make out a lot of details on the feed....seemed like dorsey gets moved around on later series, but i could be mistaken

i think, in general, besides just running basic plays in order to have film on these guys, and i mean basic plays...the coaches were much more interested in exposing our second string players, probably to see how agressive we need to be on the waiver wire....

milkman · 08-16-2009, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Watching this for the first time this morning.

Dorsey just forced the OL to hold on him, that really helped out the play, FWIW.

WTF is with the D? They're stopping the run and can't stop the pass...Twilight zone.

Charles has been in to block on both 3rd downs. Don't really know what to think of that.

They are getting gashed up the middle on runs, and Ron Edwards is being pushed around rather easily.

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the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9062208	imo, the OL looked like last year: good to stong on the left side, below average to bad on the right...lj looked fine but it still seems like he's in a hurry and misses holes... DL...ups and downs, weak in the middle...did dorsey do anything? Hali was better than anyone expected...doesn't mean he'll be good, but he's exceeded very low expectations so far.... LBs made some plays but don't appear to be able to cover yet, will be a problem all year i imagine...Mays certainly stood out, need to see it continue... I think Jackson looked strong but couldn't really tell with the pixelated feed Flowers = Total Bad Ass...we need one of him at every level of the defense Cassel was fine despite everyone's concern trolling...his passes were on target and if our back up WRs could catch we'd have gone some where...his scramble and pass to Ryan was nice, composed play... Croyle looked solid, but can never quite seal the deal...very surprised to see him bounce back from the knee injury so fast thigpen's talent is best displayed in the 4th quarters of preseason games... our fg kicker has a leg stronger than the octomom's vag... Bowe looked good and focused and no bs....he'll be first team soon if he isn't as we speak....point received...the concern trolling on this has been hilarious (see mecca, gamethread or whitlock) Charles is the one really getting sent a message, i think (unless he's injured), but no notices or concern trolls about it...he had a couple of carries? clearly behind Battle at this point pretty much what we we thought was a problem coming in was a problem: WR, NT, right side OL... vanilla stuff, from which I learned - according to chiefs fans - that a) Thigpen should start b) Haley doesn't know Bowe is a good WR c) our offense is just like Herm's d) and that you can grade play calling in a preseason game....all in all a fine table setting for the season.. __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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