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Old 08-17-2009, 08:53 PM   #1
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You said franchise pass rushers win super bowls.. DT proves they do not.. JA and the studded defense of the Vikings fared no better..


Actually it takes a whole lot more then DE, OL.. Your guys bickering points are pointless..
You're a ****ing moron.

Name a me a team that won the ****ing Super Bowl that didn't have an outstanding pass rusher. A guy (or guys) that offenses had to game plan for each and every week.

You're not going to win SHIT in the NFL these days without an outstanding pass rusher.

Period.
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:10 PM   #2
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You're a ****ing moron.

Name a me a team that won the ****ing Super Bowl that didn't have an outstanding pass rusher. A guy (or guys) that offenses had to game plan for each and every week.

You're not going to win SHIT in the NFL these days without an outstanding pass rusher.

Period.
Yep, your right that one individually player won the championship you ignorant douchebag..

Douche mccloud "franchise pass rusher > franchise QB"

****ing dumb ass... I like how you down-graded franchise pass rusher to just outstanding to try and win a point..

New England has never had a franchise Pass Rusher during their runs.. Just a dominant defense overall.. No JA or DT type player that you said is required to be there, but of course you will spin this some how like you always do because you are in fact a franchise douche bag..

Think I will go download some movies to piss the industry off and lose Dane some money..
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:58 PM   #3
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Bullshit.

"Franchise" left tackles don't win Super Bowls.

Franchise pass rushers do.
Yeah, DT has all those rings.... or wasn't he a franchise pass rusher?
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:02 PM   #4
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Yeah, DT has all those rings.... or wasn't he a franchise pass rusher?
His point is clear, so why play these types of games?
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:05 PM   #5
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His point is clear, so why play these types of games?
I put that ****ing abortion of a forum member on ignore.

I wish he'd stop posting and go back to ****ing tranny's.

NTTATWWT.
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:08 PM   #6
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I put that ****ing abortion of a forum member on ignore.

I wish he'd stop posting and go back to ****ing tranny's.

NTTATWWT.
I guess your dad is lonely?
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:07 PM   #7
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His point is clear, so why play these types of games?
Honestly, because I think he is a clueless pr!ck who tries to shout down other people with different opinions.

His point isn't valid.

Assuming that the QB is the most important position on a team.... the reality is that a player that protects your QB is every bit as important as a player who rushes the opposing QB.

He's just too used to watching Chiefs QB's that aren't worth protecting.
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Old 08-17-2009, 09:13 PM   #8
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He's just too used to watching Chiefs QB's that aren't worth protecting.
And the counter-argument is that Chiefs fans are too used to nutting themselves over O-line play, to the point of utter stupidity.

For example, how many people argued that we should take a RT, a right mother****ing tackle, with the #3 overall pick?

Here's the bottom line, if you get one LT and one pass rusher and you know that one can be only serviceable and one can be elite, the choice should be obvious: an elite pass rusher is a game changer, whereas an elite LT is a luxury.

As milkman has said several times, give me a franchise QB and a top ten D, and I'll show you a successful team.
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:16 AM   #9
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And the counter-argument is that Chiefs fans are too used to nutting themselves over O-line play, to the point of utter stupidity.

For example, how many people argued that we should take a RT, a right mother****ing tackle, with the #3 overall pick?

Here's the bottom line, if you get one LT and one pass rusher and you know that one can be only serviceable and one can be elite, the choice should be obvious: an elite pass rusher is a game changer, whereas an elite LT is a luxury.

As milkman has said several times, give me a franchise QB and a top ten D, and I'll show you a successful team.

A top ten defense is more than just a pass rusher.

And, to be fair, the Pats have had great teams without a great pass rusher.

As others have pointed out, it is about balance.

The good news is that it is easier to find good pass rushers in the 3-4..... so, douche fartcloud should be happy soon.
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