Allen is going to outsack the Chiefs

[Coach]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If I could start an expansion team today and select one player off of any team, Roethlisberger might well be my selection.

Without Question. I would consider Drew Brees up there as well.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Coach

Without Question. I would consider Drew Brees up there as well.

Too old and too small.

Great QB.

But my next choice might be Rivers.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Too old and too small.

Great QB.

But my next choice might be Rivers.

Too old? I wasn't aware that 30 years old was considered "Too Old." If that's too old, then I'd be curious to see what is Kurt Warner is....

While he is a tad undersized, you cannot question his skills. It's difficult to imagine any QB playing better than Brees did last year. He came within 1 long completion of breaking Marino's record of 5,084 passing yards in a season. He also lead the league in 4 passing categories and ranked in the top 4 of four others. And all of this with most of his primary weapons sidelined with injuries for significan stretches.

His quick release, excellent footwork, and uncanny feel for the pocket makes him a difficult sack, which translates into that he rarely put the Saints in a unfavorable down-and-distance scenerios.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Coach

His quick release, excellent footwork, and uncanny feel for the pocket makes him a difficult sack, which translates into that he rarely put the Saints in a unfavorable down-and-distance scenerios.

IMO, Drew Brees is Trent Green, Jake Delhomme and Mark Brunnel.

And unfortunately, those guys don't win the Super Bowl.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Coach

Too old? I wasn't aware that 30 years old was considered "Too Old." If that's too old, then I'd be curious to see what is Kurt Warner is....

While he is a tad undersized, you cannot question his skills. It's difficult to imagine any QB playing better than Brees did last year. He came within 1 long completion of breaking Marino's record of 5,084 passing yards in a season. He also lead the league in 4 passing categories and ranked in the top 4 of four others. And all of this with most of his primary weapons sidelined with injuries for significan stretches.

His quick release, excellent footwork, and uncanny feel for the pocket makes him a difficult sack, which translates into that he rarely put the Saints in a unfavorable down-and-distance scenerios.

I like Brees a lot. Loved him coming out of college, and, prior to this last draft class, he was the last QB whom I really, really wanted the Chiefs to select.

So, I agree with most if not all of the qualities you've listed above. While he's not Manning or Brady, he's still damn good. It's just at this point in his career, he wouldn't be my choice.

I'd be looking for a little bit young guy, with more of a prototypical frame to withstand the abuse that what would almost certainly be a complete shit O-line would hand out.

[Consistent1]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I like Brees a lot. Loved him coming out of college, and, prior to this last draft class, he was the last QB whom I really, really wanted the Chiefs to select.

So, I agree with most if not all of the qualities you've listed above. While he's not Manning or Brady, he's still damn good. It's just at this point in his career, he wouldn't be my choice.

I'd be looking for a little bit young guy, with more of a prototypical frame to withstand the abuse that what would almost certainly be a complete shit O-line would hand out.

Brees is a excellent QB whose skills would translate to pretty much any team/system. Your earlier point about taking Big Ben to start a team is kind of shaky to me. Yes, he is a proven. Yes, he has two rings. However, that D in Pitt is always tough (O-Line also) and they have a strong tradition. Outstanding player in many ways who is on the right team. Throw him on some team that needs to rack up the passing stats to stay in games and he wouldn't do quite as well IMO. I know this is an old thread and I didn't read all of it....the bottom line is that Allen is long gone and wanted it that way.