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MGRS13 · 08-19-2009, 06:13 AM

Jets targeting Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe?

Posted by Mike Florio on August 19, 2009 7:32 AM ET
Apparently, Jets coach Rex Ryan has stopped talking long enough to realize that his team has yet to find a capable replacement for receiver Laveranues Coles.

And so the Jets, per Rich Cimini of the New York Daily News, have had preliminary discussions with a few teams regarding a trade for a veteran wideout.

According to Cimini, the biggest name on the team's radar is Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall. Though the Broncos have shown no willingness to trade Marshall, the relationship between player and team is tenuous, to say the least. That said, Marshall has way too many question marks hovering over his career, both on and off the field.

Cimini also floats the name of Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe as a possible target, but we can't imagine Kansas City trading one of their only quality players -- cough . . . Tony Gonzalez . . . cough.

As Cimini points out, Jets G.M. Mike Tannebaum has a reputation for making deals late in the preseason. Still, it's difficult for a receiver to make an impact in a new offense without the benefit of participating in the offseason program and training camp.

But it nevertheless looks like something could be happening. And that's good news for the Jets, because beyond Jerricho Cotchery the team doesn't have many quality targets for rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Brock · 08-19-2009, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

Boldin > Bowe

Not really, no.

Mecca · 08-19-2009, 12:44 PM

Boldin is Bowe's upside so....I like Dwayne Bowe and all but he isn't as good as Boldin is right now.

Titty Meat · 08-19-2009, 12:47 PM

Boldin> Bowe. Boldin actually played some QB in college. I remember he played a bowl game as QB and sucked.

Mecca · 08-19-2009, 12:49 PM

He was a QB in high school, FSU had him there because a bunch of guys were hurt or suspended I don't remember which.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-19-2009, 12:50 PM

Yes, Boldin is better right now, but it would be pretty dumb to trade a young reciever for a vet when the team is in the shape it is now.

Mecca · 08-19-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Yes, Boldin is better right now, but it would be pretty dumb to trade a young reciever for a vet when the team is in the shape it is now.

Boldin's 28...Bowe is 24, so there isn't a huge huge age gap there.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-19-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Boldin's 28...Bowe is 24, so there isn't a huge huge age gap there.

Wow, I disagree.

Bowe has probably 8 more years of being a consistent, high quality receiving threat.

Boldin's got maybe 4 years.

Mecca · 08-19-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wow, I disagree.

Bowe has probably 8 more years of being a consistent, high quality receiving threat.

Boldin's got maybe 4 years.

Disagree, Boldin's game isn't and has never been straight speed, so much like Terrell Owens I expect him to be productive well into his 30's.

RustShack · 08-19-2009, 12:59 PM

Only Chiefs fans could think Bowe was better than Johnson.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-19-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Disagree, Boldin's game isn't and has never been straight speed, so much like Terrell Owens I expect him to be productive well into his 30's.

Well, I guess we'll see. I just think that 4 years is pretty huge when considering similar receivers.

And I think that T.O. is a freak. I'd be shocked if either Bowe or Boldin were consistently producing at that age, or anywhere near it.

RJ · 08-19-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Boldin's 28...Bowe is 24, so there isn't a huge huge age gap there.

By NFL standards it probably is. I have nothing to back this up, but my guess is that a 28 year old receiver is likely at his peak and will see his performance begin to recede. A 24 year old receiver is likely just entering his most productive years.

Brock · 08-19-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Only Chiefs fans could think Bowe was better than Johnson.

I don't see one single person here saying that.

Mecca · 08-19-2009, 01:02 PM

This is the way I look at WR's, a WR who relies on straight speed to get open is going to be done as soon as that speed goes so you're looking at right around 30.

Guys who use their size and power like a TO or a Boldin can last longer because their age isn't going to make them lose that.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-19-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

Only Chiefs fans could think Bowe was better than Johnson.

Cmon, use some logic. They were comparing the players stats after 2 years in the league.

Mecca · 08-19-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ

By NFL standards it probably is. I have nothing to back this up, but my guess is that a 28 year old receiver is likely at his peak and will see his performance begin to recede. A 24 year old receiver is likely just entering his most productive years.

Like I said depends on the WR, I expect Fitzgerald to be productive well into his 30's also.

A guy like Steve Smith not so much.

08-19-2009, 06:13 AM
MGRS13 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Home in KC Casino cash: $10074930	Bowe to be traded? (rumor, calm down) Jets targeting Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe? Posted by Mike Florio on August 19, 2009 7:32 AM ET Apparently, Jets coach Rex Ryan has stopped talking long enough to realize that his team has yet to find a capable replacement for receiver Laveranues Coles. And so the Jets, per Rich Cimini of the New York Daily News, have had preliminary discussions with a few teams regarding a trade for a veteran wideout. According to Cimini, the biggest name on the team's radar is Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall. Though the Broncos have shown no willingness to trade Marshall, the relationship between player and team is tenuous, to say the least. That said, Marshall has way too many question marks hovering over his career, both on and off the field. Cimini also floats the name of Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe as a possible target, but we can't imagine Kansas City trading one of their only quality players -- cough . . . Tony Gonzalez . . . cough. As Cimini points out, Jets G.M. Mike Tannebaum has a reputation for making deals late in the preseason. Still, it's difficult for a receiver to make an impact in a new offense without the benefit of participating in the offseason program and training camp. But it nevertheless looks like something could be happening. And that's good news for the Jets, because beyond Jerricho Cotchery the team doesn't have many quality targets for rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	This is the way I look at WR's, a WR who relies on straight speed to get open is going to be done as soon as that speed goes so you're looking at right around 30. Guys who use their size and power like a TO or a Boldin can last longer because their age isn't going to make them lose that.
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