Chiefs Bowe to be traded? (rumor, calm down) - Page 12

MGRS13 · 08-19-2009, 06:13 AM

Jets targeting Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe?

Posted by Mike Florio on August 19, 2009 7:32 AM ET
Apparently, Jets coach Rex Ryan has stopped talking long enough to realize that his team has yet to find a capable replacement for receiver Laveranues Coles.

And so the Jets, per Rich Cimini of the New York Daily News, have had preliminary discussions with a few teams regarding a trade for a veteran wideout.

According to Cimini, the biggest name on the team's radar is Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall. Though the Broncos have shown no willingness to trade Marshall, the relationship between player and team is tenuous, to say the least. That said, Marshall has way too many question marks hovering over his career, both on and off the field.

Cimini also floats the name of Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe as a possible target, but we can't imagine Kansas City trading one of their only quality players -- cough . . . Tony Gonzalez . . . cough.

As Cimini points out, Jets G.M. Mike Tannebaum has a reputation for making deals late in the preseason. Still, it's difficult for a receiver to make an impact in a new offense without the benefit of participating in the offseason program and training camp.

But it nevertheless looks like something could be happening. And that's good news for the Jets, because beyond Jerricho Cotchery the team doesn't have many quality targets for rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez.

Mecca · 08-19-2009, 07:01 PM

I think he's trying to say fans in this market can relate to Jared Allen and accept his problems alot easier than they can say someone like Dale Carter when he was here.

**Buehler445** · 08-19-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'd consider Andre Johnson a complete WR, there is nothing he can't do he has every tool.

No argument. But I think Bowe plays with more power.

MoreLemonPledge · 08-19-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

yep all chiefs fans have drinking problems and are white trash

Not all of them. But take a hard look at the Arrowhead parking lot next time you're tailgating. Then go to a casino and look at the people wearing Chiefs sweatshirts.

It's just a different fanbase from cities like Seattle or Miami or San Francisco.

Halfcan · 08-19-2009, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge

Not all of them. But take a hard look at the Arrowhead parking lot next time you're tailgating. Then go to a casino and look at the people wearing Chiefs sweatshirts.

It's just a different fanbase from cities like Seattle or Miami or San Francisco.

okay I will do that-first look around at the home opener, then go to the casino to see who is wearing red-then I will compare them to fans from 3 cities with double the income bracket

good advice

Chiefnj2 · 08-19-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Pretty much, I remember Chiefs fans who hated Dale Carter.

Chief fans turn on players all the time for no known reason. Backups, long shot white players, and players with nicknames become fan favorites.

MoreLemonPledge · 08-19-2009, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

okay I will do that-first look around at the home opener, then go to the casino to see who is wearing red-then I will compare them to fans from 3 cities with double the income bracket

good advice

Ugh...nevermind.

Titty Meat · 08-19-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you haven't noticed this market loves good guys, even if they are shitty players.

About the only player I can ever recall being defended after doing dumb shit was Jared Allen.

This market loves the hard working good guy over the talented screwup.

Or because he's a ****ing dope fiend. And Matt Jones is an average WR if he was real good a team would have signed him.

milkman · 08-19-2009, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Chief fans turn on players all the time for no known reason. Backups, long shot white players, and players with nicknames become fan favorites.

I'm not sure.

What I know is that I like players who work hard.

If I have a choice between two players in the same position that both give 100% effort, but one is more talented than the other, even if he has had some off field issues, I will support the more talented player.

However, if he isn't a hard worker, or he's a cancer in the locker room, I will support the lesser talented player and hope we can find another more talented player ot replace him who isn't a slacker or a cancer.

salame · 08-19-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

WTF are you talking about? Pollard never even touched him. That play did not show any power at all.

He's a big guy, but Bowe's game (Maybe it was more Hutard and Thigpen's game) is much more physical than is Johnson. Most of Johnson's plays are based on speed. Bowe runs through tackles.

honestly I think johnson just has an easier time getting open than bowe
which would lead towards your thinking that he isn't as physical
he doesn't have to be physical because he gets open

**SAUTO** · 08-19-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'm not sure.

What I know is that I like players who work hard.

If I have a choice between two players in the same position that both give 100% effort, but one is more talented than the other, even if he has had some off field issues, I will support the more talented player.

However, if he isn't a hard worker, or he's a cancer in the locker room, I will support the lesser talented player and hope we can find another more talented player ot replace him who isn't a slacker or a cancer.

i agree here, EFFORT is the key, i could give two shits if he's a "good guy". put in the work and i'll be a fan

**Buehler445** · 08-19-2009, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by salame

honestly I think johnson just has an easier time getting open than bowe
which would lead towards your thinking that he isn't as physical
he doesn't have to be physical because he gets open

Yeah, he relies on his speed a lot more. Not saying he CANNOT be physical, it's just not as much of his game as Bowes.

salame · 08-19-2009, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Yeah, he relies on his speed a lot more. Not saying he CANNOT be physical, it's just not as much of his game as Bowes.

because it doesn't need to be
do you think Bowe is going to continue to not get injured if he getting cracked going through the middle?

**Buehler445** · 08-19-2009, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by salame

because it doesn't need to be
do you think Bowe is going to continue to not get injured if he getting cracked going through the middle?

Maybe. Maybe not. He doesn't go across the middle too much. A lot of his stuff is (has been, who knows what Haley will do) on the sideline. Mostly because Tony owned the middle. Bowe is faster than TG, and TG didn't have any problems, except when he tried to save Hutard's god awful pass from being intercepted in Miami.

salame · 08-19-2009, 07:57 PM

look man
you keep on believing what you believe
and I will know what I know

because you probably have a lot of scouting knowledge and watch a lot more games
k?

**SAUTO** · 08-19-2009, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by salame

look man
you keep on believing what you believe
and I will know what I know

because you probably have a lot of scouting knowledge and watch a lot more games
k?

huh? did smed hijack this account?

08-19-2009, 06:13 AM
MGRS13 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Home in KC Casino cash: $10074930	Bowe to be traded? (rumor, calm down) Jets targeting Brandon Marshall, Dwayne Bowe? Posted by Mike Florio on August 19, 2009 7:32 AM ET Apparently, Jets coach Rex Ryan has stopped talking long enough to realize that his team has yet to find a capable replacement for receiver Laveranues Coles. And so the Jets, per Rich Cimini of the New York Daily News, have had preliminary discussions with a few teams regarding a trade for a veteran wideout. According to Cimini, the biggest name on the team's radar is Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall. Though the Broncos have shown no willingness to trade Marshall, the relationship between player and team is tenuous, to say the least. That said, Marshall has way too many question marks hovering over his career, both on and off the field. Cimini also floats the name of Chiefs receiver Dwayne Bowe as a possible target, but we can't imagine Kansas City trading one of their only quality players -- cough . . . Tony Gonzalez . . . cough. As Cimini points out, Jets G.M. Mike Tannebaum has a reputation for making deals late in the preseason. Still, it's difficult for a receiver to make an impact in a new offense without the benefit of participating in the offseason program and training camp. But it nevertheless looks like something could be happening. And that's good news for the Jets, because beyond Jerricho Cotchery the team doesn't have many quality targets for rookie quarterback Mark Sanchez.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	I think he's trying to say fans in this market can relate to Jared Allen and accept his problems alot easier than they can say someone like Dale Carter when he was here.
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salame Under the Sofa Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10010607	look man you keep on believing what you believe and I will know what I know because you probably have a lot of scouting knowledge and watch a lot more games k?
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