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Old 08-27-2009, 11:40 AM   #1
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The Patriots aren't always right on players they sign or players they release. It just so happens that most Patriot players looked bad once the team let them go because in most of those instances, the player was old or over the hill. In many of those cases that people like to point out of the Patriots being right about letting someone go, SCOTT PIOLI was the one pulling the trigger on that move.. you know, our GM. So I don't know why Belichick is getting the benefit of the doubt with some people around here and Pioli isn't.


Personally, I don't really care who did the trade etc. I just care about what I saw of the player while he was playing football. You have a pair of eyes. Use them. Stop playing "the greater guru I'm parroting knows better than the guru you are parroting." How could anyone question the great Super Bowl coach Dick Vermeil for cutting undrafted OG Ryan Lilja.... unless you actually watched Lilja and noticed he was extremely good. If I came here to Chiefs Planet and told everyone here the Chiefs were really stupid to cut Lilja the day they did, how many responses would have told me that Vermeil "knows better than you!!!" ??????

Cassel is not going to escape sacks like Big Ben and he does not have a "gun" beyond about 25 yards for a "zipped" pass. Cutler can zip it 45 yards - Jamarcus about 55. If the defense knows the QB has a limited ability to zip a ball down the field, the strategy then becomes to bait him to try, which, as the "play by play" from last year suggests, he didn't... because not every NFL team had that figured out properly. They will eventually.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:06 PM   #2
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Personally, I don't really care who did the trade etc. I just care about what I saw of the player while he was playing football. You have a pair of eyes. Use them. Stop playing "the greater guru I'm parroting knows better than the guru you are parroting." How could anyone question the great Super Bowl coach Dick Vermeil for cutting undrafted OG Ryan Lilja.... unless you actually watched Lilja and noticed he was extremely good. If I came here to Chiefs Planet and told everyone here the Chiefs were really stupid to cut Lilja the day they did, how many responses would have told me that Vermeil "knows better than you!!!" ??????

Cassel is not going to escape sacks like Big Ben and he does not have a "gun" beyond about 25 yards for a "zipped" pass. Cutler can zip it 45 yards - Jamarcus about 55. If the defense knows the QB has a limited ability to zip a ball down the field, the strategy then becomes to bait him to try, which, as the "play by play" from last year suggests, he didn't... because not every NFL team had that figured out properly. They will eventually.
n0ob, you picked a bad example. It is obvious you were not here the day Lilja was cut.
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Old 08-27-2009, 02:28 PM   #3
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n0ob, you picked a bad example. It is obvious you were not here the day Lilja was cut.

Glad to hear there were those questioning the cut. Figures that the K-State kid would have some fans watching... even if some were scouts from the Colts...
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