Chiefs Top 10: Regrettable NFL Offseason Decisions - Page 18

Pneuma · 08-26-2009, 02:11 PM

No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel

A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for.

Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law.

The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt.

He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon.

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html

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While I don't agree with the long term signing, I don't think it deserves #1.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-28-2009, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Count it off yourself. 2.3 seconds.

The trajectory of the ball is irrelevant.

Throw timecode on the video for accuracy

Hammock Parties · 08-28-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

How can the trajectory of the ball be irrelevant if the question is specifically about trajectory - zipped or floated???

Here you go:

TFG · 08-28-2009, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG

Here you go:

I would not describe that as a "zipped" ball. It is arced. The initial angle of ascent is about 30 degrees. Cutler, Elway, JaMarcus, they can throw those FLAT.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 08-28-2009, 01:24 PM

This might be the dumbest discussion ever.

TFG · 08-28-2009, 01:24 PM

Indeed, compare the trajectory of that to the Matty Ice 1 throw, which is flat, or launched with an under 10 degree initial angle of ascension.

TFG · 08-28-2009, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This might be the dumbest discussion ever.

Good thing you showed up to validate it...

MikeMaslowski · 08-28-2009, 01:30 PM

Herm Edwards Officially Named Chiefs Head Coach
January 9th, 2006 @ 3:00 pm; ChiefsWarpath.com [KC Chiefs.com] Chiefs President Carl Peterson announced on Monday that he has appointed Herm Edwards as the 10th head coach in Chiefs history. Edwards agreed to a four-year contract with the club. Per Chiefs policy, no other terms of the agreement were made available. As compensation for Edwards, the Chiefs have traded a fourth-round draft choice in 2006 to the N.Y. Jets.

“We selected Herm Edwards because he is without question one of the most qualified head football coaches in the NFL today,” Peterson commented. “He has the experience of five years as a Head Coach, five years as an Assistant Head Coach and almost 10 years as a position coach in the NFL. Herm has coached players and teams in playoff games and he has won playoff games.

“Herm knows what the National Football League is all about. He is a man of integrity, family and great passion for the game. He coaches all aspects of the game, and he coaches them well. Herm has tremendous relationships with players and coaches throughout the League. Exclusive of my personal relationship with Herm Edwards, this organization has hired Herm Edwards for his outstanding personal and positive characteristics. His teams have always been at the top of the league in fewest penalties, giveaway/takeaway ratio and sound fundamentals. Herm’s teams are always well disciplined and well coached.”

Edwards embarks on his sixth season as an NFL head coach in 2006, his 27th overall season in the league as either a player or a coach. He arrives in Kansas City after a five-year stint as the head coach of the N.Y. Jets (2001-05).

Prior to joining the Jets, Edwards spent five seasons serving as assistant head coach/defensive backs coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, working under current Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy. Edwards served as a scout for Kansas City from ‘90-91 before joining Marty Schottenheimer’s staff as defensive backs coach (’92-94), filling the vacancy left by Dungy, who departed to become defensive coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings.

Oh, did you mean this offseason?

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-28-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This might be the dumbest discussion ever.

You apparently haven't been receiving PM's from n00bs as I have

Hammock Parties · 08-28-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I would not describe that as a "zipped" ball. It is arced. The initial angle of ascent is about 30 degrees. Cutler, Elway, JaMarcus, they can throw those FLAT.

Whatever. It's a freaking 50-yard throw. Expecting it to be thrown on a frozen rope is ridiculous. That throw in NO WAY indicates a QB with a weak arm.

DaWolf · 08-28-2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TFG

Whatever. It's a freaking 50-yard throw. Expecting it to be thrown on a frozen rope is ridiculous. That throw in NO WAY indicates a QB with a weak arm.

Exactly. I hardly think Brady's pass to Moss below was a "rope"...

SenselessChiefsFan · 08-28-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I would not describe that as a "zipped" ball. It is arced. The initial angle of ascent is about 30 degrees. Cutler, Elway, JaMarcus, they can throw those FLAT.

First, um, no, they can't. No one can.

Second, even if they could, they wouldn't do it on a deep ball in a game.

There is this thing called the defense. To properly place the ball where it needs to be, you have to throw it over two or three levels of defense. Many times, you have to 'drop it in' between the linebackers and the defensive backfield.

Or, throw it downfield over the cb and let the WR run underneath it.

But, the premise than anyone can throw fifty yards FLAT.... is um... well, very, very false.

I am not saying that Cassel has a 'cannon', but he isn't Chad Pennington either.

Brady doesn't have a rocket arm. Heck, Croyle's 'arm strength' is much better than Brady... but I will take Brady every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

SenselessChiefsFan · 08-28-2009, 02:18 PM

[QUOTE=GoChiefs;6010055]

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Originally Posted by TFG

Whatever. It's a freaking 50-yard throw. Expecting it to be thrown on a frozen rope is ridiculous. That throw in NO WAY indicates a QB with a weak arm.

Actually, it is a forty yard throw. But, your point is valid otherwise.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-28-2009, 02:20 PM

matt ryan is matty ice

Hammock Parties · 08-28-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Actually, it is a forty yard throw. But, your point is valid otherwise.

Cassel is standing on the 47 and the ball hits a receiver at the 7-yard line.

When you compensate for the angle...

**SAUTO** · 08-28-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Cassel is standing on the 47 and the ball hits a receiver at the 7-yard line.

When you compensate for the angle...

i dont think you actually compensate for angle

08-26-2009, 02:11 PM
Pneuma Titles Suck Join Date: Aug 2006 Casino cash: $9788321	Top 10: Regrettable NFL Offseason Decisions No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for. Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law. The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt. He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon. http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html ___________________ While I don't agree with the long term signing, I don't think it deserves #1.
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MikeMaslowski There's always next year. Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10009290	Herm Edwards Officially Named Chiefs Head Coach January 9th, 2006 @ 3:00 pm; ChiefsWarpath.com [KC Chiefs.com] Chiefs President Carl Peterson announced on Monday that he has appointed Herm Edwards as the 10th head coach in Chiefs history. Edwards agreed to a four-year contract with the club. Per Chiefs policy, no other terms of the agreement were made available. As compensation for Edwards, the Chiefs have traded a fourth-round draft choice in 2006 to the N.Y. Jets. “We selected Herm Edwards because he is without question one of the most qualified head football coaches in the NFL today,” Peterson commented. “He has the experience of five years as a Head Coach, five years as an Assistant Head Coach and almost 10 years as a position coach in the NFL. Herm has coached players and teams in playoff games and he has won playoff games. “Herm knows what the National Football League is all about. He is a man of integrity, family and great passion for the game. He coaches all aspects of the game, and he coaches them well. Herm has tremendous relationships with players and coaches throughout the League. Exclusive of my personal relationship with Herm Edwards, this organization has hired Herm Edwards for his outstanding personal and positive characteristics. His teams have always been at the top of the league in fewest penalties, giveaway/takeaway ratio and sound fundamentals. Herm’s teams are always well disciplined and well coached.” Edwards embarks on his sixth season as an NFL head coach in 2006, his 27th overall season in the league as either a player or a coach. He arrives in Kansas City after a five-year stint as the head coach of the N.Y. Jets (2001-05). Prior to joining the Jets, Edwards spent five seasons serving as assistant head coach/defensive backs coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, working under current Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy. Edwards served as a scout for Kansas City from ‘90-91 before joining Marty Schottenheimer’s staff as defensive backs coach (’92-94), filling the vacancy left by Dungy, who departed to become defensive coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings. Oh, did you mean this offseason?
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