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Old 08-26-2009, 02:11 PM  
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Top 10: Regrettable NFL Offseason Decisions
No.1 - Kansas City Chiefs trade for Matt Cassel

A silent alarm should have sounded for the Chiefs when the New England Patriots sold off “franchise” Matt Cassel for such a cheap price. Getting good value from Bill Belichick is like getting a good deal from a greasy used-car salesman: you’re lucky if you get what you pay for.

Cassel looked shiny and nice while he was on Belichick’s lot, but so have many players. Belichick makes his squad into overachievers and then sells high, only to see his parts fail elsewhere. See: Deion Branch, David Givens and Ty Law.

The Chiefs also signed Cassel to the richest contract in franchise history before he even played a snap, which may have been premature. A simple six-month test drive wouldn’t have hurt.

He has ”bust” written all over him and his early struggles in training camp are just the early evidence that the Chiefs got a lemon.

http://www.askmen.com/top_10/sports/...decisions.html

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Old 08-28-2009, 04:33 PM   #301
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So...what's the issue here, again?
i just said that you shouldnt include the angle. why? thats not how ANYONE calls it.
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:34 PM   #302
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then the asshole wants to jump in and put in his 2 ****ing cents. **** him
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:37 PM   #303
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i just said that you shouldnt include the angle. why? thats not how ANYONE calls it.
For the purposes of our discussion, the angle was relevant.

It's also relevant to NFL scouts who want to know if a guy can throw a 15-yard out with zip.
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:38 PM   #304
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then the asshole wants to jump in and put in his 2 ****ing cents. **** him
Dude, have you ever considered just settling down and not telling everyone **** you and **** this and **** that at any sign of disagreement?

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Old 08-28-2009, 04:39 PM   #305
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For the purposes of our discussion, the angle was relevant.

It's also relevant to NFL scouts who want to know if a guy can throw a 15-yard out with zip.
Exactly.

That's why guys with a strong arm are coveted.

Being able to throw a 15-20 yard out and not give a DB time to jump it is crucial.
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Old 08-28-2009, 04:59 PM   #306
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Dude, have you ever considered just settling down and not telling everyone **** you and **** this and **** that at any sign of disagreement?

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have you ever seen me get that way unprovoked? oh and **** him. i disagree with people who dont act as though they are the end all be all quite often and it never gets that way. otw is just a conceited asshole
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:15 PM   #307
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Dude, have you ever considered just settling down and not telling everyone **** you and **** this and **** that at any sign of disagreement?

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No.
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Old 08-28-2009, 05:27 PM   #308
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i agree cassel will be ok, hoping for more out of him though
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This might be the dumbest discussion ever.
It absolutely IS the most ridiculous QB discussion I've ever seen.

I'd like for somebody to calculate the throw as if Cassel was on the moon.
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I'd like for somebody to calculate the throw as if Cassel was on the moon.
That would be a floater, but the speed of opposing defensive backs might be affected by the low gravity.

I'm sure the Patriots would try to cheat with jetpacks on the moon.
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That would be a floater, but the speed of opposing defensive backs might be affected by the low gravity.

I'm sure the Patriots would try to cheat with jetpacks on the moon.
You know, it seems like yesterday you were just a kid getting banned every other minute.

Now, all growed up and trying to sow seed. How did it all happen so fast?
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OK. Here is the final word on this bullshit

Frozen. ****ing. Rope.

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Old 08-30-2009, 01:16 PM   #313
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OK. Here is the final word on this bullshit

Frozen. ****ing. Rope.

Nice!
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I'm gonna say Cassel is about 22 yards from the sideline...judging by the hash marks....the ball travels 30 yards up field at an angle....so that's about a 35-yard throw.
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For the purposes of our discussion, the angle was relevant.

It's also relevant to NFL scouts who want to know if a guy can throw a 15-yard out with zip.
The funny part is that you actually consider yourself 'educated'.

Of course they want a 15 yard out with zip.... but they still call it a 15 yard out, not a 20.25 yard out taking into consideration the angle.

Plus, the throw for the 15 yard out is MUCH different that a throw downfield.

A 15 yard out has to get there in a hurry. You are throwing into traffic.

Downfield, especially if you look off the safety, you just have to lay it up and give your WR a shot at the ball. Place it on the outside shoulder to where he can only get it.

Talking about the angle on a downfield throw is stupid.
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