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Old 09-06-2009, 05:51 PM  
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:21 PM   #241
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Again, no one is saying that this guy should be fired, or Clark should clean house, or anything. But you can't suspend your disbelief just because he's the new guy. We aren't taking up pitchforks, torches, and burning effigies, we're asking questions. And the response we've been met with is a resounding,

"Shut the **** up, he knows what he's doing because he's Scott Pioli."

Well, Scott Pioli didn't invent scouting. He didn't invent drafting, or trades, and he sure as **** didn't perfect any of the three.

Tom Brady's not walking through that door, dirk. Vince Wilfork's not walking through that door and Bill Belichick isn't walking through that door. And if you expect them to walk through the door, you're going to be damned disappointed.
I understand that and I don't necessarily agree with saying he is Scott Pioli so stfu. But on the flip side we haven't played one real game yet and people are all up in arms over moves that we have no idea if they will work or not because they haven't played any real full 4 quarter games.

And you know what though maybe just maybe Cassell is our Brady and Haley is our Belichick and Jackson is our Seymour. Hey you never do know.
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:22 PM   #242
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No, it wasn't.

But consider who it is trying to make these points - guys that didn't expect this team to win more than 3 games to begin with.

I can't speak for them, but in my case, I'm more disappointed that they aren't taking advantage of the gift that they have, getting the pick of the litter when it comes to the cuts of the elite teams.

Picking up a Shipley, Meridith, Justice, etc gives you a project for the future, guys you can groom to take over down the road.

There's not a single guy on the OL right now sans Albert that anyone is excited about seeing in 2010, 2011, etc.

These are moves that BUILD a team, not just fill holes. To think this team can't get better in the short and especially long term by signing guys with more potential is ridiculous, IMO.
I'm with that, I don't see why not taking a shot on these no risk high reward guys, if they don't work out we're in the same spot we are now, I don't see how it's a lose situation.
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:22 PM   #243
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:22 PM   #244
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Tom Brady's not walking through that door, dirk. Vince Wilfork's not walking through that door and Bill Belichick isn't walking through that door. And if you expect them to walk through the door, you're going to be damned disappointed.
How do any of us know that Haley isnt the next Belickeck?

How do any of us know that Jackson isnt the next Wilfork?

How do we know that Cassel isnt the next Brady?

None us of do. Is Pioli perfect? No. Hes going to make mistakes. Every GM does.

Point is, its waaay too early to bash Pioli IMO.
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:23 PM   #245
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I was hoping someone would get the reference. McHale's feet are totally shot, though.
He'd still be an upgrade over McIntosh. And he could clothesline Rambis when we play the Timberwolves.
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:24 PM   #246
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How do any of us know that Haley isnt the next Belickeck?

How do any of us know that Jackson isnt the next Wilfork?

How do we know that Cassel isnt the next Brady?

None us of do. Is Pioli perfect? No. Hes going to make mistakes. Every GM does.

Point is, its waaay too early to bash Pioli IMO.
Well Jackson doesn't play the same position Wilfork does for one.
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:24 PM   #247
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I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter who the GM/Coach are, or what moves they make, the usual suspects will not like anything that this team does.

We had the worst DL in the NFL last year, possibly in NFL history, and a pretty bad OL too. It just isn't possible to fix both in one offseason. They decided that they would fix the DL first. I don't know the reasoning (and none of you do either). But I'm really sure if they had fixed the OL first these same guys would be crying because we didn't fix the DL.

I'm going to give Pioli/Haley a chance. That is the only fair and rational thing to do. There is no one anywhere that could take the team from last year and turn them into anything successful in one year. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and give them until next season to get things turned around (and by turned around I don't mean contending for anything, I just mean clearly on the road to getting better).
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:25 PM   #248
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I understand that and I don't necessarily agree with saying he is Scott Pioli so stfu. But on the flip side we haven't played one real game yet and people are all up in arms over moves that we have no idea if they will work or not because they haven't played any real full 4 quarter games.

And you know what though maybe just maybe Cassell is our Brady and Haley is our Belichick and Jackson is our Seymour. Hey you never do know.
Even if they are, Cassel still dies behind this line. You couldn't make a Madden QB that could survive behind this line with this schedule.

Here's the problem though: when guys are playing for their livelihoods, and not just the result on Sundays, and they are getting their asses whipped by the third teamers of the St. Louis Rams, it doesn't bode well for their ability.
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Old 09-06-2009, 09:26 PM   #249
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He'd still be an upgrade over McIntosh. And he could clothesline Rambis when we play the Timberwolves.
I always saw the Chief as more of a RT. Nasty, road grader type. Plus he and LJ both like to beat up women, so they've got that in common. And the nickname...I mean, c'mon.
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None us of do. Is Pioli perfect? No. Hes going to make mistakes. Every GM does.

Point is, its waaay too early to bash Pioli IMO.
When Pioli does something really smart beyond the Gonzo trade, let me know.
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How do any of us know that Haley isnt the next Belickeck?

How do any of us know that Jackson isnt the next Wilfork?

How do we know that Cassel isnt the next Brady?

None us of do. Is Pioli perfect? No. Hes going to make mistakes. Every GM does.

Point is, its waaay too early to bash Pioli IMO.
Well said.
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I've come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter who the GM/Coach are, or what moves they make, the usual suspects will not like anything that this team does.

We had the worst DL in the NFL last year, possibly in NFL history, and a pretty bad OL too. It just isn't possible to fix both in one offseason. They decided that they would fix the DL first. I don't know the reasoning (and none of you do either). But I'm really sure if they had fixed the OL first these same guys would be crying because we didn't fix the DL.

I'm going to give Pioli/Haley a chance. That is the only fair and rational thing to do. There is no one anywhere that could take the team from last year and turn them into anything successful in one year. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and give them until next season to get things turned around (and by turned around I don't mean contending for anything, I just mean clearly on the road to getting better).
When he makes a move for a QB and then gives him a franchise QB type of deal saying this is "my guy" he should have gone to the OL before the DL.

That's common sense in my view.
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When Pioli does something good beyond the Gonzo trade, let me know.
i think this sums the thread up perfectly
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