the ULTIMATE Jon Runyan thread. (Runyan in KC for a workout...)

[MMXcalibur]

This thread is a combination of the following 3 threads...

AUSTINCHIEF- *************************************
ok, I have mentioned before that I would love to see Runyan in KC...

I decided to start my own thread about it... because... well... I can.

So, here are my reasons why...

#1 all the obvious reasons... he is a pro bowler, proven player, definite upgrade, etc etc

#2 another fairly obvious one... Ndukwe would be better used at RG and this would let him move there.

#3 now we get to the good stuff... ON THE FIELD he is a nasty, mean, dirty S.O.B.

#4 OFF THE FIELD, he is a stand up guy, nice etc...

IF he can give us 2 solid years, he is well worth the investment until we can groom someone to replace him... MOST IMPORTANTLY he sets a perfect example of what our linemen of the future should aspire to be.

KCtotheSB*****************************************
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ready-to-roll/

Runyan is ready to roll
Posted by Mike Florio on September 8, 2009 1:33 PM ET
As the regular season approaches, a guy who has been on the field every Sunday since 1997 still doesn't have a job.

But, by all indications, he will soon.

Per a league source, tackle Jon Runyan has been cleared to play after offseason microfracture surgery to repair an injured knee.

We're told that three teams are interested in Runyan. According to the source, Runyan rejected an opportunity to sign a contract last week because he didn't want to play for the team in question.

Oakland Raiders? We're looking at you.

Given the rule that guarantees a vested veteran's salary if he's on the Week One roster, look for Runyan to do a deal after the first games are played.

But if there are multiple teams in the mix, the one that's willing to step up and sign him now could be the one to get him.

Except for the Raiders.

I imagine we're one of the three teams that are interested, but were we the one team Runyan told to "**** off."?

BigEd*****************************************
Runyan in KC for a workout

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http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...ut-runyan.html

[Red Dawg]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Turner doesn't really have to do anything to be better than LJ, to be honest.

Johnson has fallen off the cliff is no longer a starting caliber RB in this league.

The only problem with LJ is the line is no good anymore. This is the case with most RB's Give them a solid line and they will get tons of yards.

[petegz28]

bla bla bla....all this talk about how good Runyan is and we probably won't be able to sign him

[Easy 6]

This would be so huge, getting us pretty well set at RT, for 09 atleast...a solid vet to start & a decent young prospect to backup.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life

Is he a diehard Eagles fan or just casual? Sometimes fans dont have a clue what they are talking about so they talk up a guy with a famous name because he doesnt know any better. Runyan did allow as many sacks as McIntosh last year as far as I know.

He's a huge diehard fan.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Hope is rekindled!





Come on Carloli, SIGN HIM!

[TRR]

It looks like Jon Runyan was just cleared in late August to start running. I would think that Runyan would be pretty far off from contributing in a starting manner until later in the season.

Runyan would be a good player to sign, but not an automatic fix as he hasn't even been in pads since the final Philadelphia game last season. He has just been rehabbing his knee. I honestly don't think we will have a consistent line until after the bye week.

[Chiefs=Champions]

Originally Posted by TRR

It looks like Jon Runyan was just cleared in late August to start running.

I dont think thats a reason not to sign him though.. I mean he is playing tackle after all not WR...

[chefsos]

Originally Posted by I=SUCK

I dont think thats a reason not to sign him though.. I mean he is playing tackle after all not WR...

Or, hopefully, not chasing a guy he should have blocked like Umguna Kikbuti (sp?) in that Rams game there.

[Mr. Krab]

Originally Posted by TRR

It looks like Jon Runyan was just cleared in late August to start running. I would think that Runyan would be pretty far off from contributing in a starting manner until later in the season.

Runyan would be a good player to sign, but not an automatic fix as he hasn't even been in pads since the final Philadelphia game last season. He has just been rehabbing his knee. I honestly don't think we will have a consistent line until after the bye week.

Which means we probably won't sign him until after the Raven's game. He won't get guaranteed contract that way either.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

it can't be us, the experts said pioli has done nothing for weeks except play Fallout 3

[TRR]

Originally Posted by I=SUCK

I dont think thats a reason not to sign him though.. I mean he is playing tackle after all not WR...

Maybe...maybe not. Obviously Runyan isn't a long term fix. Maybe a year or two at best. In all likelihood, Runyan probably wouldn't be able to contribute significantly until week 3 or 4...maybe longer depending on conditioning and how his knee reacts. So we are talking about a 35 year vet that is most likely out of shape, and recovering from a knee injury...and hopefully getting 10-12 games out of him as a starter this season. I think I would rather see them put the time and effort into a younger guy like Ryan O'Callaghan or Ike Ndukwe (who although probably belongs at RG).

[Chiefburger]

Season-long lurker, first-time poster here. As a Chiefs fan living in Eagles country, I can tell you Runyan is closer to losing a leg than a step. He plays through pain and plays well.

I'd love to see the Chiefs sign him now before the Eagles make a play for him. If you haven't heard, their o-line, while worlds better, is a big question mark with much-hyped Jason Peters and schizo sideliner, Shaun Andrews, both not showing anything this preseason.

[soundmind]

So I heard Runyan was available?

[wild1]

Maybe you guys who know more about blocking schemes and playing offensive line will disagree, but doesn't it seem like if there was anyone who you could plug in and they could contribute right away, health aside, it would be someone like this who is a RT?

I'm sure there is a lot to learn in terms of plays, but you don't have to teach this guy how to play the position, and he would be playing one on one in a lot of situations with his man. A receiver it would take time to develop rhythm with the QB, a corner would need to know the coverage schemes front and back, but couldn't a RT get up to speed faster?

[soundmind]

Originally Posted by wild1

Maybe you guys who know more about blocking schemes and playing offensive line will disagree, but doesn't it seem like if there was anyone who you could plug in and they could contribute right away, health aside, it would be someone like this who is a RT?

I'm sure there is a lot to learn in terms of plays, but you don't have to teach this guy how to play the position, and he would be playing one on one in a lot of situations with his man. A receiver it would take time to develop rhythm with the QB, a corner would need to know the coverage schemes front and back, but couldn't a RT get up to speed faster?

Sure, to a degree you're right, but there are nuances to certain blocking schemes that are as intricate if not more than some passing trees. "First man inside on or off the line, unless the guard is gapped, then...." basically, there are a lot of "option schemes" to blocking...unless you decide to run a zone blocking scheme, like Denver, and run a whole lot of stretch plays and bootlegs. Then you just look for the next jersey that's not yours and latch on or lay them out.

I have no idea what to expect from this team now that Haley is taking over the offense though. I assume they use a mixture, with the backs we have though, I assume it's a pretty straight forward bunch, not a ton of pulling guards or anything. The bigger problem is all the play calling....OLineman goes left when he was suppose to go right, someone looses their consciousness, or knee, etc....