Walter Football: 2010 NFL Draft 9/9 update

[Mecca]

The Walter site does not like the Chiefs and basically ripped the hell out of the entire Chiefs offseason. There was one point when they had the Chiefs taking Okung and it said something like "I'll just give them an irrational pick it'll fit Pioli" or something of that nature.

Go read their writeup on the Chiefs Ravens game this week...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The Walter site does not like the Chiefs and basically ripped the hell out of the entire Chiefs offseason. There was one point when they had the Chiefs taking Okung and it said something like "I'll just give them an irrational pick it'll fit Pioli" or something of that nature.

Go read their writeup on the Chiefs Ravens game this week...

Their review of the Chiefs draft last year was ****ing priceless.

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The Chiefs are switching to the 3-4, so they'll be focusing on finding personnel for their new scheme. A year ago, Scott Pioli selected Jerod Mayo at No. 10, and this is a very similar pick. Kansas City has absolutely nothing on defense, and because they have (read: think they have) a franchise quarterback and left tackle, they're going Aaron Curry.

Why Not Tyson Jackson? I don't know who started mocking Jackson to the Chiefs. This move doesn't make much sense to me. Neither Jackson nor Curry have high positional value, so taking Jackson means that you have him rated higher on your board than Curry. That's pretty much absurd, as Curry is the consensus top player in this draft class. Speculation that Pioli prefers Jackson over Curry is wrong as well, given that he is tight-lipped and seldom lets information slip.

Also, note that the Chiefs went with a 3-4 end in last April's draft, so going there in back-to-back years isn't too smart.

Why Not Eugene Monroe? Monroe makes even less sense here; the Chiefs selected a left tackle (Branden Albert) last year, so taking Monroe and moving Albert around would be like choosing a guard or a right tackle at this spot. You don't do that at No. 3. Then again, Kansas City traded for a shotgun-spread system quarterback when it already had one, so I guess anything is possible with Scott Pioli running the show.

Draft Grades: (They copied my strike system)

Changing the defense to a 3-4 when the team had predominantly 4-3 personnel was strike one. Investing a lot of money and faith into a shotgun system quarterback was strike two. The 2009 NFL Draft was strike three.

My draft grades aren't so much about the players. Instead, they're more about the positions each team addressed; whether a team gave up too much in a trade; or whether each franchise followed the blueprint it needed to follow.

So, with that in mind, I was a bit baffled by Scott Pioli's draft choices. Taking Tyson Jackson, a projected lesser talent, over Aaron Curry, the consensus top defensive player in the class, could haunt the Chiefs for years to come. Neither Jackson nor Curry offered much in positional value, so the latter was a no-brainer. Jackson was projected to go 9-12 until rumors surfaced that Kansas City was interested in him. Curry, meanwhile, reportedly was the fallback option to go No. 1.

Getting off the Jackson issue, the Chiefs surrendered 37 sacks last year and garnered only 10 of their own. Pioli did absolutely nothing to help either category. No rush linebackers. No nose tackle. No offensive linemen until pick No. 139. Instead, Pioli decided to draft a third 3-4 end and a nickel corner before touching the offensive line. It's beginning to sound like Pioli's plan for Kansas City doesn't involve protecting Matt Cassel or getting to the other quarterback.

Grade given on 4/27/09: D



2009 NFL Draft Picks:

3. Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
Neither 3-4 end or linebacker offer much in terms of positional value. So, the Chiefs had to take the best defensive player on the board. Instead of Aaron Curry, the consensus No. 1 defensive player, they drafted Tyson Jackson, a much lesser prospect in terms of overall talent. This is yet another instance where Scott Pioli proves that he has absolutely no clue. Trading for a system quarterback with no arm strength should have been a sign that he'd mess up this pick. (Pick Grade: D)

67. Alex Magee, DE/DT, Purdue
I guess Scott Pioli plans on playing with as many 3-4 ends as possible. I'm all for acquiring defensive line depth, so I'm not giving the Chiefs a terrible grade, but they have so many other needs. Are the Chiefs going to eclipse 10 sacks in 2008? I'm not so sure. (Pick Grade: B)

102. Donald Washington, CB, Ohio State
The Chiefs have so many big needs. Corner isn't one of them. Donald Washington is solid value, so that saves this from being an F. You can never have enough cornerbacking depth, but Kansas City doesn't appear interested in addressing some of its needs. (Pick Grade: C)

139. Colin Brown, OT, Missouri
Scott Pioli lives up to his reputation of taking inferior talents over superior prospects. This was a pretty big reach, but at least it addresses a need. (Pick Grade: D)

175. Quinten Lawrence, WR, McNeese State
The Chiefs needed a guy to play across from Dwayne Bowe. Scott Pioli, of course, doesn't take the best player off the board. (Pick Grade: C)

212. Javarris Williams, RB, Tennessee State
I actually think this is great value for the Chiefs. Javarris Williams was arguably a mid-round prospect. If Larry Johnson leaves in the next year or two, Williams will be a nice complement to Jamaal Charles. (Pick Grade: A)

237. Jake O'Connell, TE, Miami of Ohio
A tight end to help replace Tony Gonzalez. I'll go out on a limb and say Jake O'Connell doesn't do that. No value here. (Pick Grade: C)

256. Ryan Succop, K, South Carolina
Scott Pioli sticks to his guns - taking less talented players at the position (or side of the ball). Graham Gano? Maybe Pioli knows something I don't. (Pick Grade: C)

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Their review of the Chiefs draft last year was ****ing priceless.

Can you post it?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Can you post it?

He basically made fun of Pioli for hours.

[Tiger's Fan]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He basically made fun of Pioli for hours.

More than you?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Can you post it?

Look above.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Their review of the Chiefs draft last year was ****ing priceless.

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Why Not Eugene Monroe? Monroe makes even less sense here; the Chiefs selected a left tackle (Branden Albert) last year, so taking Monroe and moving Albert around would be like choosing a guard or a right tackle at this spot. You don't do that at No. 3. [/I]

But next year you do that at #1?

WTF?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by jAZ

But next year you do that at #1?

WTF?

It's not what they should do, he's projecting what they will do. Walter Football sees Pioli as a bonehead, hence their draft grades and excoriation of his personnel moves.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's not what they should do, he's projecting what they will do. Walter Football sees Pioli as a bonehead, hence their draft grades and excoriation of his personnel moves.

No, this sentence is either true in 2009 and 2010.... or it's not true in either year.

Pioli can afford to draft a franchise left tackle and move Albert around in an effort to give Cassel more time in the pocket.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by jAZ

No, this sentence is either true in 2009 and 2010.... or it's not true in either year.

Pioli can afford to draft a franchise left tackle and move Albert around in an effort to give Cassel more time in the pocket.

Yes, you're right. I'm conflating McGuire with the other guy.

[veist]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The Walter site does not like the Chiefs and basically ripped the hell out of the entire Chiefs offseason. There was one point when they had the Chiefs taking Okung and it said something like "I'll just give them an irrational pick it'll fit Pioli" or something of that nature.

Go read their writeup on the Chiefs Ravens game this week...

It was Cody they had us taking at #3, and it was like "this is incredibly bad value here so it fits Pioli". Oh and before that it was Benn so honestly he's just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.