NFL Draft Eric Berry vs. Taylor Mays - Page 5

**RealSNR** · 09-14-2009, 06:08 PM

No, I'm not giving up on this season. This team isn't going to the playoffs. Plain and simple. But I'm still going to watch them and be encouraged by any progress I see. So if you want to bitch at me for starting a draft thread this early, go **** yourself in the eye with a sharp stick.

I've seen a couple Tennessee and USC games from last season. Taylor Mays looks MUCH better to me. He hits hard, wraps up, and is an athletic freak. Most boards I see though have Berry going before him. Granted, I'm not an NFL talent scout, but why is that?

Also, it would seem to me that this defense needs a big playmaker and that Taylor Mays is the perfect kind of athlete to fill that position versus a guy like Berry. Which one would be best for this team if we had an opportunity to draft either player this spring?

ILChief · 09-14-2009, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And how many picks did they spend on those guys?

that wasn't the question

Nightfyre · 09-14-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

that wasn't the question

It is relevant, however.
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Mecca · 09-14-2009, 09:17 PM

I want someone to point to me another player on any level of football like Taylor Mays that dude is rare.

aturnis · 09-14-2009, 09:22 PM

I don't think that this guy understands that an elite defense can do a lot more for your team than a decent offense could ever do. Not to mention a decent offense can be build in the later rounds, and free agency, not to mention farming the practice squad for o-lineman.

If this team had a few key players on defense, and a couple o-lineman, they could win with this QB and these RB's, and WR's.

Go read Htismage's "my take" thread. You'll find a lot of good information about how a stud safety could help this team. Think Carr and Flowers minus the 10 yard cushion. Factor in a pass rushing OLB to move Hali to the other side where he belongs, and this team could be exciting.

**doomy3** · 09-14-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I want someone to point to me another player on any level of football like Taylor Mays that dude is rare.

Have you seen one person say otherwise? You seriously don't need to keep repeating yourself.

Mecca · 09-14-2009, 09:26 PM

I just never want to see an OT mentioned again when we're discussing the 2 best safety prospects maybe ever.

**doomy3** · 09-14-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I just never want to see an OT mentioned again when we're discussing the 2 best safety prospects maybe ever.

That's fine. But this is going to be the longest season and offseason ever if you keep repeating the exact same thing about Mays in literally every post about him.

We all know he is a freakish athlete and is rare.

Everyone knows that.

**Buehler445** · 09-14-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I just never want to see an OT mentioned again when we're discussing the 2 best safety prospects maybe ever.

This. Times a kajillion.

Saccopoo · 09-14-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I want someone to point to me another player on any level of football like Taylor Mays that dude is rare.

Carlos Dunlap perhaps.

Mecca · 09-14-2009, 09:31 PM

Carlos Dunlap is not a 3-4 player...

You want an OL or another 3-4 end great we'll take one later in the draft.

**doomy3** · 09-14-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Carlos Dunlap is not a 3-4 player...

You want an OL or another 3-4 end great we'll take one later in the draft.

I think he was just answering your question.

Dunlap is another very rare player with unbelievable athletic ability. Kind of like Mays.

**DeezNutz** · 09-14-2009, 09:34 PM

I'd feel better about taking Mays if he didn't have below-average athleticism.

Saccopoo · 09-14-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Carlos Dunlap is not a 3-4 player...

You want an OL or another 3-4 end great we'll take one later in the draft.

I didn't mention anything about drafting him. You wanted another player that was a physical freak of nature like Mays, and I think that Dunlap is of that same type of guy. 6'6", 295 lb. and runs a 4.6.

And the Chiefs have a definite need at safety. I'd be thrilled if they get the chance at Mays, whose intangibles and size puts him over Berry in my book.

Tylerthigpen!1! · 09-14-2009, 09:55 PM

Shit all i have seen is mays make big hits. Doesn't even attempt to wrap up. See how well that works out in the nfl........ Don't get me wrong he has a great nose for the ball.

Mecca · 09-14-2009, 09:56 PM

This idea that he doesn't wrap up is bunk, his highlights are full of big hits cause well no one is going to make a highlight tape of a guy making form tackles.

09-14-2009, 06:08 PM
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1524792	Eric Berry vs. Taylor Mays No, I'm not giving up on this season. This team isn't going to the playoffs. Plain and simple. But I'm still going to watch them and be encouraged by any progress I see. So if you want to bitch at me for starting a draft thread this early, go **** yourself in the eye with a sharp stick. I've seen a couple Tennessee and USC games from last season. Taylor Mays looks MUCH better to me. He hits hard, wraps up, and is an athletic freak. Most boards I see though have Berry going before him. Granted, I'm not an NFL talent scout, but why is that? Also, it would seem to me that this defense needs a big playmaker and that Taylor Mays is the perfect kind of athlete to fill that position versus a guy like Berry. Which one would be best for this team if we had an opportunity to draft either player this spring?
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09-14-2009, 09:17 PM	#63
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09-14-2009, 09:22 PM	#64
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	I don't think that this guy understands that an elite defense can do a lot more for your team than a decent offense could ever do. Not to mention a decent offense can be build in the later rounds, and free agency, not to mention farming the practice squad for o-lineman. If this team had a few key players on defense, and a couple o-lineman, they could win with this QB and these RB's, and WR's. Go read Htismage's "my take" thread. You'll find a lot of good information about how a stud safety could help this team. Think Carr and Flowers minus the 10 yard cushion. Factor in a pass rushing OLB to move Hali to the other side where he belongs, and this team could be exciting.
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09-14-2009, 09:26 PM	#66
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	I just never want to see an OT mentioned again when we're discussing the 2 best safety prospects maybe ever.
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09-14-2009, 09:31 PM	#70
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	Carlos Dunlap is not a 3-4 player... You want an OL or another 3-4 end great we'll take one later in the draft.
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Tylerthigpen!1! Starter Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arkansas Casino cash: $7795815	Shit all i have seen is mays make big hits. Doesn't even attempt to wrap up. See how well that works out in the nfl........ Don't get me wrong he has a great nose for the ball.
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09-14-2009, 09:56 PM	#75
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	This idea that he doesn't wrap up is bunk, his highlights are full of big hits cause well no one is going to make a highlight tape of a guy making form tackles.
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