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**RNR** · 09-15-2009, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Wow, you know, I didn't expect a Raider fan to be objective Asamougha.

You and I have not talked much. Those who know me will tell you I am no homer. IMO he is the best CB in the NFL and second is distant. He has very low numbers because QBs are smart enough not to throw his way. I hope whoever starts for KC decides to throw at him often.

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-15-2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

You and I have not talked much. Those who know me will tell you I am no homer. IMO he is the best CB in the NFL and second is distant. He has very low numbers because QBs are smart enough not to throw his way. I hope whoever starts for KC decides to throw at him often.

Here is the problem with your theory. He has 20 passes defensed over the last two years. He has had 20 chances to pick off the ball.

None of the great ones have that poor of a ratio of passes defensed to interceptions over any two year span, especially int he prime of their career.

**Easy 6** · 09-15-2009, 09:21 AM

Yes, we beat the fade.

It will be batshit crazy, louder than the last 3 years minimum...the 'Arrowhead Advantage' starts its arduous climb from the cellar Sunday.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-15-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Here is the problem with your theory. He has 20 passes defensed over the last two years. He has had 20 chances to pick off the ball.

None of the great ones have that poor of a ratio of passes defensed to interceptions over any two year span, especially int he prime of their career.

So, to be the best CB in the league, you have to not only completely lock down the opposition's WR1, you have to get interceptions as well - when they all but refuse to throw to your side of the field?

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-15-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So, to be the best CB in the league, you have to not only completely lock down the opposition's WR1, you have to get interceptions as well - when they all but refuse to throw to your side of the field?

Please pay attention. He has had 20 passes defensed over the last two years. That is twenty very good opportunities at interceptions. He did it 10% of the time.

Look at the historical greats, and they are usually between 30-50%. They actually make the QB pay, not just knock the ball down.

Chiefnj2 · 09-15-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Please pay attention. He has had 20 passes defensed over the last two years. That is twenty very good opportunities at interceptions. He did it 10% of the time.

Look at the historical greats, and they are usually between 30-50%. They actually make the QB pay, not just knock the ball down.

Historical greats were allowed to make contact with receivers.

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-15-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Historical greats were allowed to make contact with receivers.

How about Champ Bailey? Again, a much better PD to Int ratio.

Again, a PD is where the corner actually deflects the ball. The truly great ones pick those off.

**RNR** · 09-15-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

How about Champ Bailey? Again, a much better PD to Int ratio.

Again, a PD is where the corner actually deflects the ball. The truly great ones pick those off.

Bailey plays all or nothing and gets beat often

Chiefnj2 · 09-15-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

How about Champ Bailey? Again, a much better PD to Int ratio.

Again, a PD is where the corner actually deflects the ball. The truly great ones pick those off.

From 2001 to 2004 Bailey had 49 PDs and 11 Ints. Was he a top corner at that point in time, or only when he went to Denver and got some more picks?

**RNR** · 09-15-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Please pay attention. He has had 20 passes defensed over the last two years. That is twenty very good opportunities at interceptions. He did it 10% of the time.

Look at the historical greats, and they are usually between 30-50%. They actually make the QB pay, not just knock the ball down.

Well we will see Sunday if the Chiefs test his side of the field.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-15-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Please pay attention. He has had 20 passes defensed over the last two years. That is twenty very good opportunities at interceptions. He did it 10% of the time.

Look at the historical greats, and they are usually between 30-50%. They actually make the QB pay, not just knock the ball down.

I am paying attention.

To you, making dumbass comments like this:

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If he is the best CB in the league, then the league has taken a step backwards.

I'd love to know who you think is a better CB right now than Asomugha.

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-15-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I am paying attention.

To you, making dumbass comments like this:

I'd love to know who you think is a better CB right now than Asomugha.

Champ Bailey is still better than Asomugha.

**RNR** · 09-15-2009, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Champ Bailey is still better than Asomugha.

wasi · 09-15-2009, 09:42 AM

Yes Chiefs win. I mean they better win after how well they played against Baltimore. Anything else would be a step backwards.

SDChiefs · 09-15-2009, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I am paying attention.

I'd love to know who you think is a better CB right now than Asomugha.

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