Chiefs Turk McBride Gone.... - Page 13

aturnis · 09-15-2009, 02:41 PM

Wade in.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-15-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Its very possible that i missed that news, but i'm thinking Jared went where the money was.

Had he known that a real NFL program was coming to KC, maybe he'd have felt differently about it.

It wouldn't have mattered.

He's not a 2-point stance, drop into coverage, 3-4 outside linebacker.

Period.

Titty Meat · 09-15-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I think Baltimore's offense will be better than Pittsburgh's, easy.

What?

philfree · 09-15-2009, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What makes you think that a guy like Jared Allen, who's played as a down-lineman for this entire decade, would suddenly be better in a two-point stance?

That just doesn't make any sense.

AND on top of that, he'd have to routinely drop into pass coverage.

WTF?

I agree. IMO if he expsoses his belly he's toast. If you can get past his length he's not as hard to block. If he's standing up his length is gone.

PhilFree

Ralphy Boy · 09-15-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

JC. Jackson only did 20 reps? Seriously? I can do 15 and I'm 5'11 and I weigh 195 lbs and I am 38.

Seriously?

According to this site, yes. And a few other sources
Jackson http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2009&genpos=DE
Dorsey http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2008&genpos=DT
McBride http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2007&genpos=DT

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-15-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

JC. Jackson only did 20 reps? Seriously? I can do 15 and I'm 5'11 and I weigh 195 lbs and I am 38.

Seriously?

If you can run a 4.5, you're hired

**Easy 6** · 09-15-2009, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It wouldn't have mattered.

He's not a 2-point stance, drop into coverage, 3-4 outside linebacker.

Period.

He has all of the athleticism of a younger Mike Vrabel & then some, snaring tip-toe 2 point conversion passes for petes sake...he would be one hell of an OLB IMO.

We'll never know for sure.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-15-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

He has all the athleticism of a younger Mike Vrabel & then some, snaring tip-toe 2 point conversion passes for petes sake...he would be one hell of an OLB IMO.

We'll never know for sure.

We know.

Mike Vrabel has NEVER put up several 15 plus sacks seasons.

Mike Vrabel was in the league for 5 years before he made an impact.

Mike Vrabel's best year was 10 sacks.

Mike Vrabel is paid $3.5 million per year and was dumped by a perennial Super Bowl coach.

Jared Allen, the DEFENSIVE END, is the highest paid defensive END in the league.

And rightfully so.

No offense but you don't know what you're talking about.

Have a good night.

RippedmyFlesh · 09-15-2009, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, he wouldn't have been "sick". He's a 4-3 down lineman and playing in a 2-point stance wouldn't have been an advantage for him. Not at all.

Like Mecca said, he'd be like Aaron Kampman.

Why do you think that Allen wanted to go to another 4-3 team?

And of all the 4-3 teams minn may have been the best place for him to go.He can look toward the center of the line and see 600lbs plus of williams taking up blockers and collapsing the pocket.A great spot for a pass rushing end to be.

Titty Meat · 09-15-2009, 11:31 PM

Dane theres almost no reason to debate these people when it comes to the few good draft picks Carl Peterson made. Theres alot of people who still think trading Tony Gonzalez for a 2nd round pick was a bad trade. It's too bad Pioli wasn't hired a year earlier with all those picks this team woulda been a contender for the playoffs this year.

Mecca · 09-15-2009, 11:31 PM

I wouldn't be thrilled being compared to Vrabel who was basically a scrub until he was nearly 30 years old...a friend of mine basically said he's a great example of a career due to modern chemistry..because well if you want HGH side affects just look at his chin.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-15-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

And of all the 4-3 teams minn may have been the best place for him to go.He can look toward the center of the line and see 600lbs plus of williams taking up blockers and collapsing the pocket.A great spot for a pass rushing end to be.

Maybe.

He wouldn't have sucked with the Giants, either.

Or the Jets with Rex Ryan.

**Easy 6** · 09-15-2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

We know.

Mike Vrabel has NEVER put up several 15 plus sacks seasons.

Mike Vrabel was in the league for 5 years before he made an impact.

Mike Vrabel's best year was 10 sacks.

Mike Vrabel is paid $3.5 million per year and was dumped by a perennial Super Bowl coach.

Jared Allen, the DEFENSIVE END, is the highest paid defensive END in the league.

And rightfully so.

No offense but you don't know what you're talking about.

Have a good night.

If 'WE' know know just how dynamic & athletic he is...why is it such a stretch to see him operating in space?

Its a pointless argument, i can only speculate, the same as everyone here with all of the answers speculates.

RippedmyFlesh · 09-15-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Maybe.

He wouldn't have sucked with the Giants, either.

Or the Jets with Rex Ryan.

On the giants good lord....would be like bill gates hitting the lottery...the ultimate rich getting richer.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-15-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

If 'WE' know know just how dynamic & athletic he is...why is it such a stretch to see him operating in space?

Its a pointless argument, i can only speculate, the same as everyone here with all of the answers speculates.

Alright, goddamit. Give me a ****ing break.

Jared Allen has been a 4-3 defensive end his entire professional and college career. He's been extremely successful in the NFL with not just one but two NFL teams.

Why in the ****ing world would you try to change that? That's just ****ing uninformed, fan-boy bullshit.

Jared Allen covering tight ends? WTF? Yeah, let's take him away from what he does best.

JFC.

Maybe Dwayne Bowe should be a defensive back or safety.

What do you think?

**Easy 6** · 09-15-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Alright, goddamit. Give me a ****ing break.

Jared Allen has been a 4-3 defensive end his entire professional and college career. He's been extremely successful in the NFL with not just one but two NFL teams.

Why in the ****ing world would you try to change that? That's just ****ing uninformed, fan-boy bullshit.

Maybe Dwayne Bowe should be a defensive back or safety.

What do you think?

I'm not trying to change that, why is it such an offense to wonder what could have been?

I say he could have made the transition, you & some others here dont...but to be told by people here, flat-out, that 'no he couldnt. period.' doesnt make any sense to me.

Goodnight.

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