Chiefs Hard not to like the improvement in WRs... - Page 2

Direckshun · 09-17-2009, 02:11 AM

What was our depth chart at this time last year? Can we go back that far?

Now we've got a legit stud (Bowe), two players with good-to-great ability (Bradley & Wade), an uber-experienced vet (Engram), and a young athlete who needs a ton of refining (Lawrence).

This corps goes from good to brilliant if we find someway to add another stud -- not even a stud, just a really reliably good, game-in-game-out compliment to Bowe.

Hootie · 09-17-2009, 03:34 AM

well lets hope

Mecca · 09-17-2009, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I=SUCK

Seriously though, how many teams actually have 2 WRs at Bowes level or better..?

Several teams do actually.....Bowe is a really nice player but there are a few teams with outstanding WR groups.

So how many teams have WR's that good..I'm just taking a stab I'll say 5-7.

Chiefs=Champions · 09-17-2009, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

well lets hope

Indeed

Chiefs=Champions · 09-17-2009, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Several teams do actually.....Bowe is a really nice player but there are a few teams with outstanding WR groups.

So how many teams have WR's that good..I'm just taking a stab I'll say 5-7.

Ok i have Bills, Pats and Cards then maybe you could count Colts, Bengals and Broncos...

Not trying to nit pick, but to me it really dosnt seem like many teams (succesful ones at that) have two outstanding WRs...

Mecca · 09-17-2009, 04:02 AM

Packers have better WR's...

Chiefs=Champions · 09-17-2009, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Packers have better WR's...

Ok yer forgot them...

RippedmyFlesh · 09-17-2009, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Several teams do actually.....Bowe is a really nice player but there are a few teams with outstanding WR groups.

So how many teams have WR's that good..I'm just taking a stab I'll say 5-7.

I think 5-7 is high.
If a team has 2 wr the quality of bowe you would have to say that they would be toward the top of the league talent wise. You could win a super bowl with 2 wr the quality of bowe.

htismaqe · 09-17-2009, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Several teams do actually.....Bowe is a really nice player but there are a few teams with outstanding WR groups.

So how many teams have WR's that good..I'm just taking a stab I'll say 5-7.

I like what we've done, and you're usually Mr. Negative

, but I think even saying 5-7 might be generous.

**cdcox** · 09-17-2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

You could win a super bowl with 2 wr the quality of bowe.

Oh hell then, we better stand pat. We wouldn't want to do that.

Quesadilla Joe · 09-17-2009, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I=SUCK

Seriously though, how many teams actually have 2 WRs at Bowes level or better..?

Denver, Arizona, NE, Pittsburgh, Cincinatti, Bills, Indy, SD, Green Bay, Saints.

**loochy** · 09-17-2009, 08:22 AM

Forget the wideouts right now. We need some right sided o-linemen.

Coogs · 09-17-2009, 08:27 AM

Hopefully, we can hit a home run with either Lawrence or Long stepping into a role similar to what Wes Welker does for the Patriots. If by the end of the season, either one of those two can handle that type of role, our offense could take a huge jump forward going into the next season.

RippedmyFlesh · 09-17-2009, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Denver, Arizona, NE, Pittsburgh, Cincinatti, Bills, Indy, SD, Green Bay, Saints.

Denver
bowe vs royal or stokely
stokely had 1 year 2004 with numbers close to bowe
royals numbers are similar to bowe

NO
I take bowe over meacham,moore,thomas

The point being 2 wr as good as bowe would get the job done better than most.

FAX · 09-17-2009, 08:41 AM

When you stop and think about it, Haley and Pioli may have an interesting offensive personnel strategy playing out here.

Surely, we can assume that both Pioli and Haley realize that our o-line is sub-par and unable to consistently provide sufficient run-blocking to establish a significant rushing threat or (God forbid) pass protection. I have to believe they recognize this problem and would, in an ideal world, prefer to build the offense inside-out.

However, they've been unfortunately unable to either identify, recruit, or acquire (for whatever reason) meaningful upgrades to the line - at least, up to now.

So, instead, they're attempting to dramatically improve the receiver corp. This might make sense. If the line can't be depended upon to allow the QB to consistently take 7 step drops and/or go through all his possible reads, sure-handed receivers who can run quick 5 to 15 yard routes might be a back-handed solution to the problem.

We might be looking at an offense that features more 3 to 5 step drops, rollouts, and boots combined with quick outs, slants, as well as short curls and hooks. Reminiscent of the West Coast offense. To do that, you need guys who aren't afraid to catch the ball in traffic, have sure hands, and can take a hit. You also need guys who will block for the other guys, if you want YAC, that is. That may be why we're going through so many receivers ... trying to find players who can dependably fill that role. Possible?

FAX

RippedmyFlesh · 09-17-2009, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Got Grbac

Bowe's a tweener man...

He's 'meh' as a #1...or an excellent #2.

With a fixed oline to be able to actually run down field patterns and the right counterpart at wr he could be a solid 1. The dropoff after bowe here is so great it's almost hard to picture what he would look like in that scenario.

09-17-2009, 02:11 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Hard not to like the improvement in WRs... What was our depth chart at this time last year? Can we go back that far? Now we've got a legit stud (Bowe), two players with good-to-great ability (Bradley & Wade), an uber-experienced vet (Engram), and a young athlete who needs a ton of refining (Lawrence). This corps goes from good to brilliant if we find someway to add another stud -- not even a stud, just a really reliably good, game-in-game-out compliment to Bowe.
Posts: 59,693

09-17-2009, 03:34 AM	#16
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	well lets hope
Posts: 56,356

09-17-2009, 04:02 AM	#20
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-672950	Packers have better WR's...
Posts: 115,353

09-17-2009, 08:22 AM	#26
loochy Hey Loochy, I'm hooome! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: PooPooKaKaPeePeeShire Casino cash: $-1709603	Forget the wideouts right now. We need some right sided o-linemen.
Posts: 42,148

09-17-2009, 08:27 AM	#27
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2225651	Hopefully, we can hit a home run with either Lawrence or Long stepping into a role similar to what Wes Welker does for the Patriots. If by the end of the season, either one of those two can handle that type of role, our offense could take a huge jump forward going into the next season.
Posts: 21,904

09-17-2009, 08:41 AM	#29
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	When you stop and think about it, Haley and Pioli may have an interesting offensive personnel strategy playing out here. Surely, we can assume that both Pioli and Haley realize that our o-line is sub-par and unable to consistently provide sufficient run-blocking to establish a significant rushing threat or (God forbid) pass protection. I have to believe they recognize this problem and would, in an ideal world, prefer to build the offense inside-out. However, they've been unfortunately unable to either identify, recruit, or acquire (for whatever reason) meaningful upgrades to the line - at least, up to now. So, instead, they're attempting to dramatically improve the receiver corp. This might make sense. If the line can't be depended upon to allow the QB to consistently take 7 step drops and/or go through all his possible reads, sure-handed receivers who can run quick 5 to 15 yard routes might be a back-handed solution to the problem. We might be looking at an offense that features more 3 to 5 step drops, rollouts, and boots combined with quick outs, slants, as well as short curls and hooks. Reminiscent of the West Coast offense. To do that, you need guys who aren't afraid to catch the ball in traffic, have sure hands, and can take a hit. You also need guys who will block for the other guys, if you want YAC, that is. That may be why we're going through so many receivers ... trying to find players who can dependably fill that role. Possible? FAX
Posts: 44,492