Chiefs I hope Haley is ready to break out the 4-4 defense this week - Page 3

Mr. Laz · 09-17-2009, 09:24 AM

We MUST stop the run and force the faiders to throw.

Enter the 4-4 defense

Jackson,Tyler,Dorsey,Magee

Vrabel,Williams,Mays,Hali

Flowers, Page, Carr

The faiders offensively line is huge, smallest guy is their center at 6'4" 305, we need to add some more beef up front.

I hope we think about doing something like this on 1st and 2nd down.

soundmind · 09-17-2009, 10:33 AM

It's a thought, they're the only team I can remember in a LONG time if ever, that has two rookies starting at WR. That's a big piece of why Miller is such a big piece, the other two guys are still adjusting for a certain percentage of the game. I could definitely see that happening if he proves to be a problem.

On that note, if the game is in JaFat's chubby fingers, I feel good about where we're sitting....

**Buehler445** · 09-17-2009, 10:35 AM

Is there any chance they see what the Ravens did and come out slinging? We can only hope.
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Chiefnj2 · 09-17-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

You didn't answer the question.

I don't think one threat is bigger than the other if KC can't pressure the QB.

Chiefnj2 · 09-17-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

What you say makes sense. I just wonder if we take Miller away how lost Russell would look...kind of like Thigpen looked after Gonzo was traded. Lost and throwing to the other team. Thanks for the answer.

Or, he can just dump it to McFadden and see if KC's LBs can keep up.

Mr. Laz · 09-17-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by soundmind

It's a thought, they're the only team I can remember in a LONG time if ever, that has two rookies starting at WR. That's a big piece of why Miller is such a big piece, the other two guys are still adjusting for a certain percentage of the game. I could definitely see that happening if he proves to be a problem.

On that note, if the game is in JaFat's chubby fingers, I feel good about where we're sitting....

Which brings us back to the 4-4

pull the strong safety and add another Dlineman on running downs to try and force the game in to Russell's hands ... err ... arm.

A few 3 and outs or a Russell interception, on 3rd and long, when the faiders are deep in their own territory could really get the game rolling in our favor.

**ChiefGator** · 09-17-2009, 10:55 AM

Weren't we practicing a 5-3-3 or 5-2-4 or something in camp alot?

Mr. Laz · 09-17-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I don't think one threat is bigger than the other if KC can't pressure the QB.

I couldn't disagree more, the Faiders clearly want to run the ball 1st and have made that their strength. Take away the run and the faiders lose.

CaliforniaChief · 09-17-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

I couldn't disagree more, the Faiders clearly want to run the ball 1st and have made that their strength. Take away the run and the faiders lose.

I agree with this, but you have to take Miller out of the equation. If the Raiders don't have the run and he doesn't have his pacifier to turn to, he's gonna start slinging it to the WR's. Game, set, match, Chiefs.

Chiefnj2 · 09-17-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

I couldn't disagree more, the Faiders clearly want to run the ball 1st and have made that their strength. Take away the run and the faiders lose.

That's what people said last week. Take away the run and make Flacco try to beat us. He's only a game manager...

I realize Russel isn't Flacco, but without pressure even Jamarcus is going to find open receivers.

Mr. Laz · 09-17-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Weren't we practicing a 5-3-3 or 5-2-4 or something in camp alot?

We moved guys around alot but i don't want either of those setups.

5-3-3 allows too many huge runs if they break through the 5 Dlineman.

5-2-4 softens the middle of the field too much, which is where the faiders try and pound the ball.

4-4-3 lets you clog the line of scrimmage but still have a few linebacking corp to fill the holes and run sideline-to-sideline. The question is whether we can contain the deep passing game with only 3 in our secondary.

Mr. Laz · 09-17-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I agree with this, but you have to take Miller out of the equation. If the Raiders don't have the run and he doesn't have his pacifier to turn to, he's gonna start slinging it to the WR's. Game, set, match, Chiefs.

with 4 linebackers still in the game, we can still clog the short passing routes. we can still blitz as well... run blitz or pass blitz.

Our defensive strength is our corners, the faiders offensive weakness is at wide receiver. We need to try and make that work for us.

T-post Tom · 09-17-2009, 11:06 AM

Fargas, Bush & McFadden are the strength of their offense by far. I like Laz's idea.

09-17-2009, 09:24 AM
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	I hope Haley is ready to break out the 4-4 defense this week We MUST stop the run and force the faiders to throw. Enter the 4-4 defense Jackson,Tyler,Dorsey,Magee Vrabel,Williams,Mays,Hali Flowers, Page, Carr The faiders offensively line is huge, smallest guy is their center at 6'4" 305, we need to add some more beef up front. I hope we think about doing something like this on 1st and 2nd down.
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09-17-2009, 10:33 AM	#31
soundmind EB:29 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10004900	It's a thought, they're the only team I can remember in a LONG time if ever, that has two rookies starting at WR. That's a big piece of why Miller is such a big piece, the other two guys are still adjusting for a certain percentage of the game. I could definitely see that happening if he proves to be a problem. On that note, if the game is in JaFat's chubby fingers, I feel good about where we're sitting....
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