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**Tribal Warfare** · 09-19-2009, 02:02 AM

Chiefs notebook | Cassel a game-time decision

Cassel is game-time decision again

Chiefs coach Todd Haley stopped short Friday of a ruling on quarterback Matt Cassel, saying after the team’s practice that he still couldn’t guarantee Cassel’s sprained left knee is healthy enough for a game-day load.

Haley said he would make a decision on Cassel’s availability Sunday morning.

“That’s the safest,” Haley said. “This will be a deal where we will have to make sure they’re good to go.”

Haley said early this week that he hoped to know about Cassel’s availability earlier this week than last, when Haley decided to deactivate Cassel after a morning workout in Baltimore. Brodie Croyle started in Cassel’s place.

Cassel practiced each day this week, and he has worn a brace on his left knee during each day’s workouts. The knee has been wrapped after practices. Cassel said Thursday that he was “leaps and bounds” better than he was at the same time last week, and Haley has said he thought Cassel had made noticeable progress.

Still, Haley said Cassel might have developed some rust after leaving after three plays in the team’s third preseason game and missing its preseason finale and last week’s regular-season opener. Haley said that Cassel has taken enough snaps but that game action is a different challenge for a quarterback.

“We’ve made some pretty drastic changes around here offensively,” Haley said, “and that includes terminology. And even though he was in the meetings, it’s not quite the same when you’re out there and going through the huddle.

“I would say it set him back a little bit, and he’s got to accelerate himself and study extra and put extra time in to catch up.”

Ryan seems at home in Kansas City

After five previous teams, veteran tight end Sean Ryan seems to have adjusted his game to fit Kansas City’s plans.

Ryan is in the unexpected role as the Chiefs’ starter after an unimpressive preseason by second-year tight end Brad Cottam, and Ryan has proved himself a strong blocker and an available receiver. He had a 10-yard touchdown catch in last week’s loss to the Ravens.

He said the receiving part of his job remains a work in progress, even in his sixth season.

“Throughout my career,” he said, “what I’ve been asked to do is be a blocker. I pride myself on being a blocker, and I enjoy it. If, at some point in my career, I’m considered a great receiver, that’s a blessing, too.”

Ryan said he and Cassel spent time playing catch during the offseason, trying to establish timing and trust.

As has been the custom for each of the Chiefs’ promising tight ends, Ryan was asked Friday whether he expected to replace Tony Gonzalez.

“I can’t fill Tony Gonzalez’s shoes,” Ryan said. “(If) Tony Gonzalez wears a size 30; I wear a size 15. There’s no way I’m filling Tony Gonzalez’s shoes, and I’m not trying to do that.”

Injury report

Cornerback Brandon Flowers also will be listed, along with Cassel, as questionable for Sunday’s game. Haley wouldn’t say whether Flowers, who has an injured shoulder, would be ready by Sunday. Flowers told reporters Friday that he felt certain he would play against Oakland.

JD10367 · 09-19-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94

I'm sure some of you heard, but I haven't seen it here yet. Yesterday on Chris and Cowboy, Bill Maas mad the prediction that the qb job was Croyle's to lose. I thought they were joking. That's what Billy Bob said. He even repeated himself.

Croyle threw for 177 yards, and 2 TDs. In a losing effort.

Cassel got a bazillion dollar contract.

Croyle could come out and throw for 500 yards and six TDs against Oakland, and he STILL wouldn't be anointed the starter.

Even if Croyle is lights out for three or four games in a row, Cassell will get his chance. And if he sucks in a game, he'll get another chance. And if he sucks in another game he'll get ANOTHER chance. Cassell will have to stink it up big-time for at least three games in a row before they (i.e. Chiefs management) call him a failure in KC...

ThunderChief · 09-19-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94

I'm sure some of you heard, but I haven't seen it here yet. Yesterday on Chris and Cowboy, Bill Maas mad the prediction that the qb job was Croyle's to lose. I thought they were joking. That's what Billy Bob said. He even repeated himself.

Probably the nuttiest story IMO, EVAH!!!!

Or Billy Boy's on the sauce.

Don't kid yourself cable, the pressure to get those W's is perhaps more important in the maiden voyage year of the 'new Chiefs' than those seasons in the future. Look for Pioli/Haley to pull out all the stops to get that done in 2009, lest leave little hope to the fandom and Clark that this deal isn't all that.

Halfcan · 09-19-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

I still don't know how Flowers injured himself. You can't see shit in the replay, just a bunch of bodies in front of the whole mess.

well Cassel's injury didnt look like much either-I was surprised he was hurt

Reerun_KC · 09-19-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

Croyle threw for 177 yards, and 2 TDs. In a losing effort.

Cassel got a bazillion dollar contract/.

Croyle could come out and throw for 500 yards and six TDs against Oakland, and he STILL wouldn't be anointed the starter.

Even if Croyle is lights out for three or four games in a row, Cassell will get his chance. And if he sucks in a game, he'll get another chance. And if he sucks in another game he'll get ANOTHER chance. Cassell will have to stink it up big-time for at least three games in a row before they (i.e. Chiefs management) call him a failure in KC...

This mother ****er got a big ass contract, he better stop acting like Elvis Grbac and get his ass out there and ****ing play...

What the FUKC? Huh? Seriously? This back up ass clown gets paid, now he is pampering his knee?

****ing show up and play or start giving money back. Your not worth this contract anyway...

milkman · 09-19-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderChief

Don't kid yourself cable, the pressure to get those W's is perhaps more important in the maiden voyage year of the 'new Chiefs' than those seasons in the future. Look for Pioli/Haley to pull out all the stops to get that done in 2009, lest leave little hope to the fandom and Clark that this deal isn't all that.

So signing a bunch of washed free agents, rather than going after guys like Chris Canty and Igor Olshansky is "pulling out all the stops"?

Marcellus · 09-19-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

This mother ****er got a big ass contract, he better stop acting like Elvis Grbac and get his ass out there and ****ing play...

What the FUKC? Huh? Seriously? This back up ass clown gets paid, now he is pampering his knee?

****ing show up and play or start giving money back. Your not worth this contract anyway...

I think if it were up to him he would have played last week and wants to play this week.

It's got nothing to do with him babying his knee.

Marcellus · 09-19-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So signing a bunch of washed free agents, rather than going after guys like Chris Canty and Igor Olshansky is "pulling out all the stops"?

I don't think there was ever any intention of pulling out all the stops and I don't think they were going to sign a shit ton of players for a short term fix. That's not the plan.

I do think they were too far behind on player evaluation when this whole process got started and thought they were going to be able to improve the play of some of the existing players.

Some of that could still happen and I believe it will.

The fact they drafted 2 DE early tells you this is a long term project.

milkman · 09-19-2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I don't think there was ever any intention of pulling out all the stops and I don't think they were going to sign a shit ton of players for a short term fix. That's not the plan.

I do think they were too far behind on player evaluation when this whole process got started and thought they were going to be able to improve the play of some of the existing players.

Some of that could still happen and I believe it will.

The fact they drafted 2 DE early tells you this is a long term project.

I agree with you.

I'm just questioning the n00b's reasoning.

Halfcan · 09-19-2009, 03:52 PM

we would be 1-0 if we would have drafted Sanchez-Mecca

milkman · 09-19-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

we would be 1-0 if we would have drafted Sanchez-Mecca

JFC, give it a ****ing rest.

Reerun_KC · 09-19-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I think if it were up to him he would have played last week and wants to play this week.

It's got nothing to do with him babying his knee.

Your right, I was just ranting.. Feel much better now.

Reerun_KC · 09-19-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

we would be 1-0 if we would have drafted Sanchez-Mecca

I hope someone gang rapes you with a dirty aids stick...

yeti · 09-19-2009, 04:57 PM

Without Cassel playing I feel like I am watching the same damn team as last year. It has got to be bugging the hell out of Haley to keep his precious on the sideline.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-19-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

I hope someone gang rapes you with a dirty aids stick...

Halfcan · 09-19-2009, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

JFC, give it a ****ing rest.

that was a quote not my opinion

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