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Old 09-27-2009, 02:27 PM  
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I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today.
With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:50 PM   #46
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Yup.

The first half was filled with Saunders playcalls where they had some innovative short plays designed for about 5 yards. Like Gailey's offense, they were gimmicky plays and it's only a matter of time before the defense adjusts to it.
Sorry, no comparison.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:51 PM   #47
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:51 PM   #48
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People are concerned with that because when you scream and yell and basically make an ass of yourself saying my way works etc etc..

Then you get your ass kicked and that guy basically calls plays that wave the white flag...it sends a funky message to players.

It is all about getting players to buy in. That is the key to any system..... and coach. It is communication and selling your program.

Giving up in the third quarter..... ain't selling guys on anything.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:51 PM   #49
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In FA or the draft?
FA obviously. What draft pick did we pass on because of cap room?
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:52 PM   #50
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The ****ing game where we blew a 17 point lead at home?

How is this game, in any way, reminiscent of that one?
Well, it was the same opponent, I guess.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:52 PM   #51
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I keep asking that question.

Only Chiefzilla has given me some possible FAs and, while I agree with him that they'd be better than some of our current players, they're still second-tier people.

I'm looking for those blue-chip FAs everyone's convinced we didn't pursue.
Jason Brown was out there.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:53 PM   #52
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With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:54 PM   #53
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Cap room could have been used for FA. Tell me an available OL that was available and we passed on them?
FA: Jason Brown, Ray Willis.

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Old 09-27-2009, 02:55 PM   #54
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Sorry, no comparison.
Very valid comparison.

When your offensive line is incapable of giving your QB even a fraction of a second to throw the ball, you are very limited in the kinds of plays you can run. You're limited mostly to quick screens to the RBs and WRs and the QB has no time to go through any kinds of progressions.

The Chiefs did that to perfection against Philly that game with Green. And then the defense adjusted because they knew exactly what the Chiefs were going to do. In games like this when you're horribly outmatched on the o-line, your choice is to run the ball unsuccessfully, go for a long pass play where you're more than likely going to get sacked, or rely exclusively on a passing game that demands that you get rid of the ball right after the ball is snapped. None of those options is attractive.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:56 PM   #55
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Wait, after 3 games he's going to lose the team? Really?
When a head coach acts like he is the savior...... is a complete hardass and then:

calls a bad game against an Oakland team that you should beat.

And, follows that up by calling a worse game AND clearly giving up before even the fourth quarter.

Yeah, I'm afraid it is possible to lose the team.
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:56 PM   #56
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This team has no talent. You could have Belicheck/Bill Walsh/Vince Lombardi/Jimmy Johnson... whoever coaching this team and it wouldn't matter.

Pioli sat on his fat, 800 pound ass this offseason and did virtually nothing to upgrade the blatant lack of talent on the Chiefs roster.

I'm putting most of the blame for this mess on Pioli.
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This team has no talent. You could have Belicheck/Bill Walsh/Vince Lombardi/Jimmy Johnson... whoever coaching this team and it wouldn't matter.

Pioli sat on his fat, 800 pound ass this offseason and did virtually nothing to upgrade the blatant lack of talent on the Chiefs roster.

I'm putting most of the blame for this mess on Pioli.
Again, I'm asking.

Who should he have brought in?

Names would be useful. Not just an amorphous "he should have done something". What should he have done? Who was available who should have been brought in?

I agree, there were some fuzzy picks in the draft.

I want to know who these magic FAs were.
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Very valid comparison.

When your offensive line is incapable of giving your QB even a fraction of a second to throw the ball, you are very limited in the kinds of plays you can run. You're limited mostly to quick screens to the RBs and WRs and the QB has no time to go through any kinds of progressions.

The Chiefs did that to perfection against Philly that game with Green. And then the defense adjusted because they knew exactly what the Chiefs were going to do. In games like this when you're horribly outmatched on the o-line, your choice is to run the ball unsuccessfully, go for a long pass play where you're more than likely going to get sacked, or rely exclusively on a passing game that demands that you get rid of the ball right after the ball is snapped. None of those options is attractive.
Let me add one more...
2008. You have no pass protection. So what do you do? You run a gimmick spread offense because it's the only way you can get a pass play off without getting sacked.

We can criticize Haley for his playcalling. But when you can't protect your QB, you throw away 50% of your playbook and 45% of your playbook doesn't work nearly as well as it should.
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This team has no talent. You could have Belicheck/Bill Walsh/Vince Lombardi/Jimmy Johnson... whoever coaching this team and it wouldn't matter.

Pioli sat on his fat, 800 pound ass this offseason and did virtually nothing to upgrade the blatant lack of talent on the Chiefs roster.

I'm putting most of the blame for this mess on Pioli.
yeah, cause Pioli didn't sign 10 pro-bowlers in 8 months
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