Chiefs I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today. - Page 8

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-27-2009, 02:27 PM

With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.

**dirk digler** · 09-27-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Really what was his answer?

"My players got ****ed in the ass so hard I figured we should just get it over with"

He wanted to keep running because this team has no identity. He said it had a purpose as far as the team goes and he would leave it at that

I am also sure that the O-Line giving Cassel .00005 seconds to throw the ball played into that as well.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan

It's the other gloom and doomers who I want responses from. I haven't seen a response from anyone but you.

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

He wanted to keep running because this team has no identity. He said it had a purpose as far as the team goes and he would leave it at that

I am also sure that the O-Line giving Cassel .00005 seconds to throw the ball played into that as well.

The purpose was to just get the game over with.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-27-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The purpose was to just get the game over with.

Frankly, I don't see how it matters. The Chiefs had two options: run a screen pass where Cassel gets walloped as he gets rid of the ball or run the ball unsuccessfully.

I would rather have option B, even if it's conservative.

It's pretty damn sad that we had designed plays where Cassel got rid of the ball immediately and he STILL got hit on almost every pass play.

**dirk digler** · 09-27-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The purpose was to just get the game over with.

Yeah I am sure it had nothing to do with the O-Line letting 3 defenders on ever play run free and destroy Cassel.

**dirk digler** · 09-27-2009, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Frankly, I don't see how it matters. The Chiefs had two options: run a screen pass where Cassel gets walloped as he gets rid of the ball or run the ball unsuccessfully.

I would rather have option B, even if it's conservative.

It's pretty damn sad that we had designed plays where Cassel got rid of the ball immediately and he STILL got hit on almost every pass play.

Yep

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 03:23 PM

This is incredibly low standard to say you can't even throw passes when you're getting your asses kicked.

Hammock Parties · 09-27-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

WTF?

Do you have Hamas on ignore?

How the **** can you be so ****ing stupid?

Just reading Hamas' posts raises your IQ!

**dirk digler** · 09-27-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

This is incredibly low standard to say you can't even throw passes when you're getting your asses kicked.

I agree. I saw our supposedly stud LT get abused a ton today and let people just run by him. It was embarrassing.

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 03:26 PM

So hey if we just have to run cause we can't dare throw..

Does that mean the gameplan against the Giants will have 3 passes for the entire game in it?

**Easy 6** · 09-27-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yeah I am sure it had nothing to do with the O-Line letting 3 defenders on ever play run free and destroy Cassel.

No kidding.

He might have had 3, loosely defined 'pockets' all. day. long.

Same type of FAIL on the run, with 2-3 iggles swarming the backfield by the time a handoff could be completed.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-27-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

So hey if we just have to run cause we can't dare throw..

Does that mean the gameplan against the Giants will have 3 passes for the entire game in it?

The Giants game is going to be really, really, really ugly. That might be the first game that I intentionally miss.

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 03:28 PM

If they play like they did today they won't beat anyone.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-27-2009, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If they play like they did today they won't beat anyone.

We won't win any games against top-tier teams. We are clearly outmatched. Let's not forget that Philly, even with Kolb, is a very good team.

FAX · 09-27-2009, 03:39 PM

Dang. "Fire Haley!" "Kill Haley!" "Decapitate Haley!" "Burn Haley!" "Drink Haley's Blood And Eat His Spleen!"

I admire the enthusiasm, but seriously, you can't have10 penalties for almost 100 yards on the road against anybody in the NFL. Talent-wise, we are a very bad team and Haley's been right all along; we can't afford any mistakes - even against average teams - if we're going to give ourselves a chance.

Haley is not going to lose the team (unless it's via the waiver wire, or by trade). He's not going to quit. And, he's not going to buy a gallon of gas and set himself on fire in front of the Jason Whitlock's house.

All of us (including Haley) just saw how far we have to go. We were outplayed and outclassed by a far superior team. We're not 85% of the way there. We may not be 20% of the way there. This is going to take years ... many, many years.

I don't think we converted a single third down today. Some fans need to run laps.

FAX

09-27-2009, 02:27 PM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today. With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win. That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life. I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game. My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders. It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.
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09-27-2009, 03:23 PM	#112
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	This is incredibly low standard to say you can't even throw passes when you're getting your asses kicked.
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09-27-2009, 03:26 PM	#115
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	So hey if we just have to run cause we can't dare throw.. Does that mean the gameplan against the Giants will have 3 passes for the entire game in it?
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09-27-2009, 03:28 PM	#118
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	If they play like they did today they won't beat anyone.
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09-27-2009, 03:39 PM	#120
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	Dang. "Fire Haley!" "Kill Haley!" "Decapitate Haley!" "Burn Haley!" "Drink Haley's Blood And Eat His Spleen!" I admire the enthusiasm, but seriously, you can't have10 penalties for almost 100 yards on the road against anybody in the NFL. Talent-wise, we are a very bad team and Haley's been right all along; we can't afford any mistakes - even against average teams - if we're going to give ourselves a chance. Haley is not going to lose the team (unless it's via the waiver wire, or by trade). He's not going to quit. And, he's not going to buy a gallon of gas and set himself on fire in front of the Jason Whitlock's house. All of us (including Haley) just saw how far we have to go. We were outplayed and outclassed by a far superior team. We're not 85% of the way there. We may not be 20% of the way there. This is going to take years ... many, many years. I don't think we converted a single third down today. Some fans need to run laps. FAX
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