Chiefs I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today. - Page 20

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-27-2009, 02:27 PM

With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win.

That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life.

I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game.

My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders.

It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.

ThunderChief · 09-27-2009, 05:36 PM

I don't remember the dark ages of the mid 70s-late 80s Chiefs being this pathetic. And for those who were around then, believe me, THAT was a pathetic period to be a Chief's fan. Anywhere you look, almost, there's a position in need dire need of an upgrade.

This ugly scenario just turned a lot uglier with the Philly loss. I'm looking for more firings, more player cuts, and more finger pointing all the way around. Can it get any worse?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I guess the coaches didn't want to upgrade as bad as the fans?

Well in this false dichotomy, maybe the "coaches" are ****ing idiots, then.

milkman · 09-27-2009, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065

Guess your jerk IM, did not work out? Idiot!!!

Just ****ing hilarious!

JFC, what did you just say?

Holy shit.

**Smed1065** · 09-27-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I think every player who goes through a learning period and struggles loses their confidence.

Some don't overcome it.

Some do.

I think Albert is one that would, but I think also that it does slow the process, which is my primary concern with Albert right now.

SO ALBERT DOES?

bECAUSE I SAID SO, NEEDS TOO

Mecca · 09-27-2009, 05:39 PM

I still don't know what Smed is talking about.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieficus

Good point. I think that's the bigger picture here. A lot of people are whining about the o-line and what shoulda/coulda happened. Well, the o-line is just a small fraction.

What this team needed was a near-complete overhaul: We needed to replace 1 if not both safeties, with the switch to a 3-4: 3 LBs, 3 DLs, then also: C, G, T, WR, QB, KR/PR, and while it was lower priority maybe even HB. That's at minimum 1/2 a team's worth of starters and doesn't even begin to address depth at those positions. Not to mention the complete dearth of leadership that was on the team.

I'd like to see the GM that can come to a laughing stock of a team and even begin to fix every phase of that in one offseason.

They had to prioritize, and with the draft, they decided to set their aim on the DL and QB (with the trade); then maybe see what they could happen to fill with the later picks.

I think it only qualifies as panic when you think you're a player or two away and find out you're not at the last moment, so you start reaching at straws to make yourself better than you are. I don't think our owner, GM, or coach ever had that illusion.

When you have a seriously talentless team you pick a place and start working. That's what they did. The rest of it is trying to find the right sized finger to plug the hole in your dam until you can get the proper fix...

Jesus ****ing Christ.

Not one person, not ****ing one person on this board thought this could be turned around in a year. Stop with this ****ing bullshit.

The criticism doesn't stem from the fact that we're 0-3 this year, it stems from the fact that even their initial choices and styles to "plug the dam" have been gross miscalculations or outright failures.

That doesn't portend well for the future. You can't win with 53 Terrance Coppers, no matter how much you want to. You can't draft counter to the available talent in the draft and expect to get good players, or good value.

You can't ignore the biggest weakness on your team, and then forfeit draft choices so that you can shuffle the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Good god, man. Get ****ing real.

**Smed1065** · 09-27-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I still don't know what Smed is talking about.

wOW iMAGINE.

Like the nfl, college or need to but down the truth.

Mecca duh?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-27-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

No way the executive of the decade could be a part of something so terrible. Not possible.

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Originally Posted by milkman

Just ****ing hilarious!

JFC, what did you just say?

Holy shit.

Just give the man his "biscuits and taters" and move on.

**Smed1065** · 09-27-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Jesus ****ing Christ.

Not one person, not ****ing one person on this board thought this could be turned around in a year. Stop with this ****ing bullshit.

The criticism doesn't stem from the fact that we're 0-3 this year, it stems from the fact that even their initial choices and styles to "plug the dam" have been gross miscalculations or outright failures.

That doesn't portend well for the future. You can't win with 53 Terrance Coppers, no matter how much you want to. You can't draft counter to the available talent in the draft and expect to get good players, or good value.

You can't ignore the biggest weakness on your team, and then forfeit draft choices so that you can shuffle the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Good god, man. Get ****ing real.

LOL Go Mecca or douche from Cali or 60 percent.

LOL

|Zach| · 09-27-2009, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065

wOW iMAGINE.

Like the nfl, college or need to but down the truth.

Mecca duh?

Drink some coffee.

**Bowser** · 09-27-2009, 05:45 PM

I think Smed has already passed out, woke up, dealt with the hangover, and gotten drunk again.

WildTurkey · 09-27-2009, 05:46 PM

I bet Haley wishes he could lose this team and trade them in for one with some talent

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-27-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Smed1065

LOL Go Mecca or douche from Cali or 60 percent.

LOL

You should be chemically neutered.

milkman · 09-27-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Just give the man his "biscuits and taters" and move on.

I had to give the man positive rep, cause even though I have no clue what the hell he said, I laughed harder than I have in years.

|Zach| · 09-27-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Chieficus

I'd like to see the GM that can come to a laughing stock of a team and even begin to fix every phase of that in one offseason.

Because that is how that works.

09-27-2009, 02:27 PM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	I am afraid that Haley might have lost the team today. With the Chiefs trailing huge, the Chiefs went into a shell. It appeared that he quit calling plays trying to win. That combined with his arrogance, and hardass attituded towards everyone...... he could have a very, very short shelf life. I cannot believe how conservative that game was called. I understand protecting the QB... but you have give yourself a chance to win the game. My biggest gripe about Herm was the conservative play calling.... and Haley has made him look like Al Saunders. It is hard to keep a team from giving up when the head coach calls a game like he gave up midway through the third quarter.
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09-27-2009, 05:36 PM	#286
ThunderChief Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: N Florida Casino cash: $10004900	I don't remember the dark ages of the mid 70s-late 80s Chiefs being this pathetic. And for those who were around then, believe me, THAT was a pathetic period to be a Chief's fan. Anywhere you look, almost, there's a position in need dire need of an upgrade. This ugly scenario just turned a lot uglier with the Philly loss. I'm looking for more firings, more player cuts, and more finger pointing all the way around. Can it get any worse?
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09-27-2009, 05:39 PM	#290
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-762950	I still don't know what Smed is talking about.
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Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-268384	I think Smed has already passed out, woke up, dealt with the hangover, and gotten drunk again.
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09-27-2009, 05:46 PM	#297
WildTurkey I'm done Chiefs, Go Pack Go Join Date: May 2009 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $10004900	I bet Haley wishes he could lose this team and trade them in for one with some talent
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