@people that think Sanchez would be a better fit

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I don't want Trent Green again, people still make excuses for him. Trent was a product of what was around him, I want a QB that makes the players around him better.

That's all well and good. But you can't polish a turd. It's not like it's Cassel's fault that his o-line keeps blowing their assignments, or that the Chiefs can't move the ball an inch on the ground.

I've seen Cassel do a lot of things that Green does not. If you watch him at the line of scrimmage, he's a lot more active in calling out assignments and audibles. And whereas Green was a pure zone QB that relied on pass protection to give receivers time to hit their spots, Cassel's been a lot less shy and a lot more capable about gunning the ball into tight spots.

I think Cassel has the upside to be much better than Green. But that's not going to happen when you have the worst offensive line in football. No QB can succeed under those conditions. Even Big Ben doesn't have to deal with an o-line this bad.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's all well and good. But you can't polish a turd. It's not like it's Cassel's fault that his o-line keeps blowing their assignments, or that the Chiefs can't move the ball an inch on the ground.

I've seen Cassel do a lot of things that Green does not. If you watch him at the line of scrimmage, he's a lot more active in calling out assignments and audibles. And whereas Green was a pure zone QB that relied on pass protection to give receivers time to hit their spots, Cassel's been a lot less shy and a lot more capable about gunning the ball into tight spots.

I think Cassel has the upside to be much better than Green. But that's not going to happen when you have the worst offensive line in football. No QB can succeed under those conditions. Even Big Ben doesn't have to deal with an o-line this bad.

That O-Line of yours went downhill incredibly quickly. You guys had a lot of FO changeover though during the time when it should have been addressed. I've seen comments that it was Vermeil that screwed the Chiefs over with a Win Now mentality the new FO is still trying to pick up the pieces.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by listopencil

That O-Line of yours went downhill incredibly quickly. You guys had a lot of FO changeover though during the time when it should have been addressed. I've seen comments that it was Vermeil that screwed the Chiefs over with a Win Now mentality the new FO is still trying to pick up the pieces.

During the Vermeil years, once the o-line was set, Tait was the last successfully drafted o-lineman until Branden Albert was drafted.

Worse, we knew this offseason that our o-line sucked. Our front office apparently didn't realize this.

Carl Peterson ****ed the o-line up. But that doesn't give Pioli the excuse to not do anything about it.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

During the Vermeil years, once the o-line was set, Tait was the last successfully drafted o-lineman until Branden Albert was drafted.

Worse, we knew this offseason that our o-line sucked. Our front office apparently didn't realize this.

Carl Peterson ****ed the o-line up. But that doesn't give Pioli the excuse to not do anything about it.

I've already gone around and around about Albert. I think he would be an elite Guard and it was a gamble to draft him for LT.

But, yeah. I see what you mean about Pioli.

[Mecca]

It's not but lets be frank, how many people picked the Jets to finish in last? Or win 4 or 5 games?

No one thought they'd start 3-0 I'd venture most thought 0-3.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's not but lets be frank, how many people picked the Jets to finish in last? Or win 4 or 5 games?

No one thought they'd start 3-0 I'd venture most thought 0-3.

I didn't. Not with a rookie QB.

[Mecca]

I blame alot of this shit on Pioli and Haley, if he didn't like Gailey or his playbook you gotta make that call earlier than 2 weeks before the season.

Pioli knew this Oline was a can of smashed assholes if he didn't then he's extremely naive.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I blame alot of this shit on Pioli and Haley, if he didn't like Gailey or his playbook you gotta make that call earlier than 2 weeks before the season.

Pioli knew this Oline was a can of smashed assholes if he didn't then he's extremely naive.

There's a lot of shit that pisses me off.

Ignoring the offensive line.
Playing musical ****ing chairs with receivers, when Cassel needs every last rep to build timing with his receivers
Not hiring a ****ing quarterbacks coach to tutor Cassel

You would think that when the Chiefs made all the effort to get Cassel, they'd try just a little harder to give him opportunity to get comfortable in this offense. People loved the idea of demoting Bowe or benching Bradley against Oakland. **** that. The idea pissed me off then, and it pisses me off today too.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

There's a lot of shit that pisses me off.

Ignoring the offensive line.
Playing musical ****ing chairs with receivers, when Cassel needs every last rep to build timing with his receivers
Not hiring a ****ing quarterbacks coach to tutor Cassel

You would think that when the Chiefs made all the effort to get Cassel, they'd try just a little harder to give him opportunity to get comfortable in this offense. People loved the idea of demoting Bowe or benching Bradley against Oakland. **** that. The idea pissed me off then, and it pisses me off today too.

There's one thing all good offenses have...timing and that comes with experience playing together. So I can't personally understand how anyone thinks constantly rotating the offense is a good idea.

I said this right after the draft, the Chiefs have set Matt Cassel up to fail this offseason has been completely unfair to him even having a chance to succeed.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Mecca

There's one thing all good offenses have...timing and that comes with experience playing together. So I can't personally understand how anyone thinks constantly rotating the offense is a good idea.

I said this right after the draft, the Chiefs have set Matt Cassel up to fail this offseason has been completely unfair to him even having a chance to succeed.

I really pity Cassel. I really do.

He deserves a chance to prove himself. And the Chiefs are making that as difficult on him as they possibly could.

I know you wanted Sanchez. But I'm seeing that you agree that Cassel is crippled right now big time by poor decisions made by the Chiefs' front office?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I really pity Cassel. I really do.

He deserves a chance to prove himself. And the Chiefs are making that as difficult on him as they possibly could.

I know you wanted Sanchez. But I'm seeing that you agree that Cassel is crippled right now big time by poor decisions made by the Chiefs' front office?

I think the Chiefs have made a ton of poor decisions this offseason. I generally think Cassel was one aswell but if they were going to go with him as their guy what they did was reeruned.

If they had done this to Sanchez I'd say they were stupid too, you do not do that. You don't drop 60 mill on a QB then say "ah lets let this guy fail"

[Mecca]

If I was ever going to say I thought Pioli and Haley were arrogant here would be why I get that feeling..

Who trades for their franchise QB then gets him nothing to work with? Did these guys really think they'd take these scrub as players and make them pro bowlers?

Who puts in an entirely different offensive playbook 2 weeks before the season? You decide that stuff when you TAKE THE JOB.

[Mecca]

A guy is confused when he got a new playbook 2 weeks before the season...Todd Haley at his best, other than when he's quitting in the 3rd quarter.

[Mecca]

Like I said if you're going to make a QB move you need to make moves to atleast give him a chance. That offseason needs to be centered on how can I protect my QB, how can I do this.

The Chiefs went and got a QB and focused on their moves on defense, I think that's poor management.

[kcpasco]

I can't really hate on Pioli for not addressing the O-Line to much, because I'm one that is so sick and ****ing tired of our Defense sucking complete balls that is where I wanted to get stronger.