@people that think Sanchez would be a better fit

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

That's all well and good. But you can't polish a turd. It's not like it's Cassel's fault that his o-line keeps blowing their assignments, or that the Chiefs can't move the ball an inch on the ground.

I've seen Cassel do a lot of things that Green does not. If you watch him at the line of scrimmage, he's a lot more active in calling out assignments and audibles. And whereas Green was a pure zone QB that relied on pass protection to give receivers time to hit their spots, Cassel's been a lot less shy and a lot more capable about gunning the ball into tight spots.

I think Cassel has the upside to be much better than Green. But that's not going to happen when you have the worst offensive line in football. No QB can succeed under those conditions. Even Big Ben doesn't have to deal with an o-line this bad.

That O-Line of yours went downhill incredibly quickly. You guys had a lot of FO changeover though during the time when it should have been addressed. I've seen comments that it was Vermeil that screwed the Chiefs over with a Win Now mentality the new FO is still trying to pick up the pieces.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by listopencil

That O-Line of yours went downhill incredibly quickly. You guys had a lot of FO changeover though during the time when it should have been addressed. I've seen comments that it was Vermeil that screwed the Chiefs over with a Win Now mentality the new FO is still trying to pick up the pieces.

During the Vermeil years, once the o-line was set, Tait was the last successfully drafted o-lineman until Branden Albert was drafted.

Worse, we knew this offseason that our o-line sucked. Our front office apparently didn't realize this.

Carl Peterson ****ed the o-line up. But that doesn't give Pioli the excuse to not do anything about it.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

During the Vermeil years, once the o-line was set, Tait was the last successfully drafted o-lineman until Branden Albert was drafted.

Worse, we knew this offseason that our o-line sucked. Our front office apparently didn't realize this.

Carl Peterson ****ed the o-line up. But that doesn't give Pioli the excuse to not do anything about it.

I've already gone around and around about Albert. I think he would be an elite Guard and it was a gamble to draft him for LT.

But, yeah. I see what you mean about Pioli.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I've already gone around and around about Albert. I think he would be an elite Guard and it was a gamble to draft him for LT.

But, yeah. I see what you mean about Pioli.

The thing that makes this worse is this team has a ton of cap room Jason Brown signed with the Rams which says hey he'd play here if we'd pay him. Deepest OL draft in recent memory but no we gotta have Alex Magee and Donald Washington.

Obviously backup ends and 4th CB's are more important than protecting your starting QB who you just basically said is our franchise guy.

And then people wonder why some think Pioli is arrogant or stupid.

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The thing that makes this worse is this team has a ton of cap room Jason Brown signed with the Rams which says hey he'd play here if we'd play him. Deepest OL draft in recent memory but no we gotta have Alex Magee and Donald Washington.

Obviously backup ends and 4th CB's are more important than protecting your starting QB who you just basically said is our franchise guy.

And then people wonder why some think Pioli is arrogant or stupid.

I think your expectations are a little to high for 1 offseason, I don't know how you can take the worst O-line in the league and by some miracle all of a sudden they are decent.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by kcpasco

I think your expectations are a little to high for 1 offseason, I don't know how you can take the worst O-line in the league and by some miracle all of a sudden they are decent.

You don't.

You replace these poor players through the draft and free agency.

Problem is, the Chiefs didn't.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by kcpasco

I think your expectations are a little to high for 1 offseason, I don't know how you can take the worst O-line in the league and by some miracle all of a sudden they are decent.

I'm not asking for all world I'm asking for competent you pay Jason Brown and god knows we have the money to do it that alone is worlds better Niswanger is the worst center I have ever seen. He does nothing well.

You can grab starting guards in the 2nd day of the draft, even if they were struggling atleast you could say, hey they're young they'll get better.

Wouldn't you rather have Duke Robinson out there at RG than Mike Goff?

When you trade for a QB and give him 60 mill I feel as a GM you are obligated to atleast make sure you don't ruin him. If I was a GM and I knew I was going to deal for Cassel or make a move for a QB in the top 5, the rest of my offseason would have been completely geared for that move.

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not asking for all world I'm asking for competent you pay Jason Brown and god knows we have the money to do it that alone is worlds better Niswanger is the worst center I have ever seen. He does nothing well.

You can grab starting guards in the 2nd day of the draft, even if they were struggling atleast you could say, hey they're young they'll get better.

Wouldn't you rather have Duke Robinson out there at RG than Mike Goff?

I'd rather have Duke, but their are so many God damn holes on this team, where the **** do you start?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by listopencil

I've already gone around and around about Albert. I think he would be an elite Guard and it was a gamble to draft him for LT.

But, yeah. I see what you mean about Pioli.

Albert wasn't nearly this bad last year. I still think the weight loss had a lot to do with it, and I have a feeling they're making him do a lot of different things with his technique. Because it's not like he's getting flat-out beat. On most plays, he looks like he's confused, like he's not sure what he's supposed to do fundamentally. I think he'll be fine as the season goes along.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Albert wasn't nearly this bad last year. I still think the weight loss had a lot to do with it, and I have a feeling they're making him do a lot of different things with his technique. Because it's not like he's getting flat-out beat. On most plays, he looks like he's confused, like he's not sure what he's supposed to do fundamentally. I think he'll be fine as the season goes along.

I really wonder if any of the starters really understand wtf Muir is expecting of them or do they even give a shit?

Originally Posted by kcpasco

I think your expectations are a little to high for 1 offseason, I don't know how you can take the worst O-line in the league and by some miracle all of a sudden they are decent.

The problem is even the decent players on the line last year have suddenly regressed to almost if not complete Jordan Black level.