Chiefs @people that think Sanchez would be a better fit - Page 8

jaa1025 · 09-27-2009, 11:31 PM

Are you freaking stupid? Serious question. Sanchez would be 0-3 and probably look worse behind this oline.Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning would be 0-3. There is NO time to throw. Every time Cassell dropped back he 3-4 defenders in his face.

When Vermiel was here we had a great oline...one of the best in the league. 2 HoFers helped pave the way for Priest, LJ and company. They gave time to an above average QB (Trent Green) and below average receivers to field the best offense in the league. You all freaking witnessed it...so how did you become so dumb and forget that the Oline makes the offense, just like the Dline (pass rush) makes the defense?

Fix the Oline-Matt has time to actually look further than 3-5 yards down the field. Becomes a star player (Trent was as a average-above average QB) and the RB's rush for 1700+ yards.

Fix the Dline(time and coaching)/OLBs(new players)--Our defense actually looks like Philly's Defense. I'd probably take our dbacks over theres and many other teams starters but they look like crap because NO ONE CAN COVER for 5-8 seconds play after play...not even Deon Sanders in his prime.

So stop with the Sanchez posts. Stop with the Tebow posts (which really makes you look incredibly stupid) and realize that our offense will continue to suck until the Oline is FIXED. It's going to be a VERY long season.

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Meh, have you forgotten the Griese and Plummer years? The last time we were one of the top teams in the AFC was with Plummer, though. I don't know-I'm starting to like Orton. He's making good decisions and his arm isn't as bad as I thought it was. He's like a Griese/Plummer hybrid.

And you call me a homer?

Is it ok to judge Casell for his past as being a backup to Brady, but you are willing to overlook the history with Orton?

WildTurkey · 09-28-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Meh, have you forgotten the Griese and Plummer years? The last time we were one of the top teams in the AFC was with Plummer, though. I don't know-I'm starting to like Orton. He's making good decisions and his arm isn't as bad as I thought it was. He's like a Griese/Plummer hybrid.

yeah but those guys had to make you appreciate Elway and how ****ing irritatingly good he was

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

How is Cassel a system QB?

The only QB who could thrive in the Chiefs' system right now are running QBs like Vick.

I think he means with the Pats and I'll be the first to say I think a ton of QB's could have done what he did for the Pats last year.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-28-2009, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

How is Cassel a system QB?

The only QB who could thrive in the Chiefs' system right now are running QBs like Vick.

Didn't you say as much in an earlier post?

listopencil · 09-28-2009, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

You mean the one they traded?

Yep. That's the very definition of a Franchise Quarterback. Blame your team mates for every loss. Run to the new HC for an ego stroke in the off season, when he tells you that no one is above the team-pout. Cry a lot then run and hide. Demand a trade then lie about it. The Face Of The Franchise.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 01:05 AM

I'm not really a fan of Jay Cutler, but the Broncos did give themselves another hole to fill with that move.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-28-2009, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Didn't you say as much in an earlier post?

I said he needed to be surrounded by an offensive line that gave him at least some pocket to work with. But what QB doesn't need at least a hint of protection?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-28-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I think he means with the Pats and I'll be the first to say I think a ton of QB's could have done what he did for the Pats last year.

Yes. This is what I was getting at.

listopencil · 09-28-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

And you call me a homer?

Is it ok to judge Casell for his past as being a backup to Brady, but you are willing to overlook the history with Orton?

What is this fascination you have for putting words in people's mouths? Do you really think that Cassell has looked like a better QB than Sanchez?

listopencil · 09-28-2009, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey

yeah but those guys had to make you appreciate Elway and how ****ing irritatingly good he was

Oh, yeah. Elway spoiled us Bronco fans. It's not like we're gonna get another Elway any time soon.

listopencil · 09-28-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not really a fan of Jay Cutler, but the Broncos did give themselves another hole to fill with that move.

Yep. Had to be done though.

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Yep. That's the very definition of a Franchise Quarterback. Blame your team mates for every loss. Run to the new HC for an ego stroke in the off season, when he tells you that no one is above the team-pout. Cry a lot then run and hide. Demand a trade then lie about it. The Face Of The Franchise.

Sounds like a homer excuse to me, Cutler may have had an ego but he has way more upside then Orton can dream of.

I just wanna know why your really here? Is it because you really want a conversation about Sanchez or is it because you wanna gloat about something that any intelligent Chiefs fan already knows.

The Broncos are better then the Chiefs!!!!!!

listopencil · 09-28-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

Sounds like a homer excuse to me, Cutler may have had an ego but he has way more upside then Orton can dream of.

I just wanna know why your really here? Is it because you really want a conversation about Sanchez or is it because you wanna gloat about something that any intelligent Chiefs fan already knows.

The Broncos are better then the Chiefs!!!!!!

All you have to do is read. Without trying to figure some bizarre ulterior motive for why I post.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

What is this fascination you have for putting words in people's mouths? Do you really think that Cassell has looked like a better QB than Sanchez?

Look man Sanchez looks better, he does what he has to do to win games, being 3-0 with their first 3 games with a rookie QB is unbelievable. But no matter what the response you're going to get is "look who Cassel plays with".

I fear that will become the tact for years to come that no matter what the Chiefs Cassel will always be given a pass because he doesn't have a perfect team.

WildTurkey · 09-28-2009, 01:10 AM

Cutler won't win anything in the NFL ... he brings thoughts of Jeff George to my head....

09-27-2009, 11:31 PM
jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	@people that think Sanchez would be a better fit Are you freaking stupid? Serious question. Sanchez would be 0-3 and probably look worse behind this oline.Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning would be 0-3. There is NO time to throw. Every time Cassell dropped back he 3-4 defenders in his face. When Vermiel was here we had a great oline...one of the best in the league. 2 HoFers helped pave the way for Priest, LJ and company. They gave time to an above average QB (Trent Green) and below average receivers to field the best offense in the league. You all freaking witnessed it...so how did you become so dumb and forget that the Oline makes the offense, just like the Dline (pass rush) makes the defense? Fix the Oline-Matt has time to actually look further than 3-5 yards down the field. Becomes a star player (Trent was as a average-above average QB) and the RB's rush for 1700+ yards. Fix the Dline(time and coaching)/OLBs(new players)--Our defense actually looks like Philly's Defense. I'd probably take our dbacks over theres and many other teams starters but they look like crap because NO ONE CAN COVER for 5-8 seconds play after play...not even Deon Sanders in his prime. So stop with the Sanchez posts. Stop with the Tebow posts (which really makes you look incredibly stupid) and realize that our offense will continue to suck until the Oline is FIXED. It's going to be a VERY long season.
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09-28-2009, 01:05 AM	#111
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-692950	I'm not really a fan of Jay Cutler, but the Broncos did give themselves another hole to fill with that move.
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WildTurkey I'm done Chiefs, Go Pack Go Join Date: May 2009 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $10004900	Cutler won't win anything in the NFL ... he brings thoughts of Jeff George to my head....
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