Chiefs @people that think Sanchez would be a better fit - Page 11

jaa1025 · 09-27-2009, 11:31 PM

Are you freaking stupid? Serious question. Sanchez would be 0-3 and probably look worse behind this oline.Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning would be 0-3. There is NO time to throw. Every time Cassell dropped back he 3-4 defenders in his face.

When Vermiel was here we had a great oline...one of the best in the league. 2 HoFers helped pave the way for Priest, LJ and company. They gave time to an above average QB (Trent Green) and below average receivers to field the best offense in the league. You all freaking witnessed it...so how did you become so dumb and forget that the Oline makes the offense, just like the Dline (pass rush) makes the defense?

Fix the Oline-Matt has time to actually look further than 3-5 yards down the field. Becomes a star player (Trent was as a average-above average QB) and the RB's rush for 1700+ yards.

Fix the Dline(time and coaching)/OLBs(new players)--Our defense actually looks like Philly's Defense. I'd probably take our dbacks over theres and many other teams starters but they look like crap because NO ONE CAN COVER for 5-8 seconds play after play...not even Deon Sanders in his prime.

So stop with the Sanchez posts. Stop with the Tebow posts (which really makes you look incredibly stupid) and realize that our offense will continue to suck until the Oline is FIXED. It's going to be a VERY long season.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-28-2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

I think your expectations are a little to high for 1 offseason, I don't know how you can take the worst O-line in the league and by some miracle all of a sudden they are decent.

You don't.

You replace these poor players through the draft and free agency.

Problem is, the Chiefs didn't.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

I think your expectations are a little to high for 1 offseason, I don't know how you can take the worst O-line in the league and by some miracle all of a sudden they are decent.

I'm not asking for all world I'm asking for competent you pay Jason Brown and god knows we have the money to do it that alone is worlds better Niswanger is the worst center I have ever seen. He does nothing well.

You can grab starting guards in the 2nd day of the draft, even if they were struggling atleast you could say, hey they're young they'll get better.

Wouldn't you rather have Duke Robinson out there at RG than Mike Goff?

When you trade for a QB and give him 60 mill I feel as a GM you are obligated to atleast make sure you don't ruin him. If I was a GM and I knew I was going to deal for Cassel or make a move for a QB in the top 5, the rest of my offseason would have been completely geared for that move.

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not asking for all world I'm asking for competent you pay Jason Brown and god knows we have the money to do it that alone is worlds better Niswanger is the worst center I have ever seen. He does nothing well.

You can grab starting guards in the 2nd day of the draft, even if they were struggling atleast you could say, hey they're young they'll get better.

Wouldn't you rather have Duke Robinson out there at RG than Mike Goff?

I'd rather have Duke, but their are so many God damn holes on this team, where the **** do you start?

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

I'd rather have Duke, but their are so many God damn holes on this team, where the **** do you start?

Duke Robinson got drafted at the end of the 5th round, we took Colin Brown ahead of him, think about that.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 01:40 AM

Like I said if you're going to make a QB move you need to make moves to atleast give him a chance. That offseason needs to be centered on how can I protect my QB, how can I do this.

The Chiefs went and got a QB and focused on their moves on defense, I think that's poor management.

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 01:41 AM

I can't really hate on Pioli for not addressing the O-Line to much, because I'm one that is so sick and ****ing tired of our Defense sucking complete balls that is where I wanted to get stronger.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

I can't really hate on Pioli for not addressing the O-Line to much, because I'm one that is so sick and ****ing tired of our Defense sucking complete balls that is where I wanted to get stronger.

That's great but it's a bad team, when you make the QB move you are obligated to not let him get his brains beat in.

I would have waited till next year for the defense if I had decided I was going QB this year.

salame · 09-28-2009, 01:44 AM

mecca do you think that Albert is a legitimate left tackle?

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That's great but it's a bad team, when you make the QB move you are obligated to not let him get his brains beat in.

I would have waited till next year for the defense if I had decided I was going QB this year.

And your probably right about this. But I'm not gonna attack him when I'm one of the ones at the draft screaming defense defense.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-28-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

I can't really hate on Pioli for not addressing the O-Line to much, because I'm one that is so sick and ****ing tired of our Defense sucking complete balls that is where I wanted to get stronger.

And they are just so ****ing awesome now

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And they are just so ****ing awesome now

No they still suck and thats whats so sad about it

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-28-2009, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

No they still suck and thats whats so sad about it

That was a predictable outcome, considering the switch to a 3-4 and the lack of talent at linebacker.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 01:49 AM

I could sit here and layout a much better scenario but I'll just get bitched at because I'm playing fantasy GM doing it...

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 01:51 AM

I know a lot of people here weren't high on Curry, but if you were gonna go Defense and you knew you were gonna run a 3-4. Wouldn't if have made more sense to go that route?

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

I know a lot of people here weren't high on Curry, but if you were gonna go Defense and you knew you were gonna run a 3-4. Wouldn't if have made more sense to go that route?

We shouldn't have switched to 3-4, and no you don't take LB's that high.

Do you want me to lay out the way I think we should have played it?

09-27-2009, 11:31 PM
jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	@people that think Sanchez would be a better fit Are you freaking stupid? Serious question. Sanchez would be 0-3 and probably look worse behind this oline.Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning would be 0-3. There is NO time to throw. Every time Cassell dropped back he 3-4 defenders in his face. When Vermiel was here we had a great oline...one of the best in the league. 2 HoFers helped pave the way for Priest, LJ and company. They gave time to an above average QB (Trent Green) and below average receivers to field the best offense in the league. You all freaking witnessed it...so how did you become so dumb and forget that the Oline makes the offense, just like the Dline (pass rush) makes the defense? Fix the Oline-Matt has time to actually look further than 3-5 yards down the field. Becomes a star player (Trent was as a average-above average QB) and the RB's rush for 1700+ yards. Fix the Dline(time and coaching)/OLBs(new players)--Our defense actually looks like Philly's Defense. I'd probably take our dbacks over theres and many other teams starters but they look like crap because NO ONE CAN COVER for 5-8 seconds play after play...not even Deon Sanders in his prime. So stop with the Sanchez posts. Stop with the Tebow posts (which really makes you look incredibly stupid) and realize that our offense will continue to suck until the Oline is FIXED. It's going to be a VERY long season.
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09-28-2009, 01:40 AM	#155
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-692950	Like I said if you're going to make a QB move you need to make moves to atleast give him a chance. That offseason needs to be centered on how can I protect my QB, how can I do this. The Chiefs went and got a QB and focused on their moves on defense, I think that's poor management.
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09-28-2009, 01:41 AM	#156
kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $6143463	I can't really hate on Pioli for not addressing the O-Line to much, because I'm one that is so sick and ****ing tired of our Defense sucking complete balls that is where I wanted to get stronger.
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09-28-2009, 01:44 AM	#158
salame Under the Sofa Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10010607	mecca do you think that Albert is a legitimate left tackle?
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09-28-2009, 01:49 AM	#163
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-692950	I could sit here and layout a much better scenario but I'll just get bitched at because I'm playing fantasy GM doing it...
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09-28-2009, 01:51 AM	#164
kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $6143463	I know a lot of people here weren't high on Curry, but if you were gonna go Defense and you knew you were gonna run a 3-4. Wouldn't if have made more sense to go that route?
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