Chiefs @people that think Sanchez would be a better fit - Page 12

jaa1025 · 09-27-2009, 11:31 PM

Are you freaking stupid? Serious question. Sanchez would be 0-3 and probably look worse behind this oline.Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning would be 0-3. There is NO time to throw. Every time Cassell dropped back he 3-4 defenders in his face.

When Vermiel was here we had a great oline...one of the best in the league. 2 HoFers helped pave the way for Priest, LJ and company. They gave time to an above average QB (Trent Green) and below average receivers to field the best offense in the league. You all freaking witnessed it...so how did you become so dumb and forget that the Oline makes the offense, just like the Dline (pass rush) makes the defense?

Fix the Oline-Matt has time to actually look further than 3-5 yards down the field. Becomes a star player (Trent was as a average-above average QB) and the RB's rush for 1700+ yards.

Fix the Dline(time and coaching)/OLBs(new players)--Our defense actually looks like Philly's Defense. I'd probably take our dbacks over theres and many other teams starters but they look like crap because NO ONE CAN COVER for 5-8 seconds play after play...not even Deon Sanders in his prime.

So stop with the Sanchez posts. Stop with the Tebow posts (which really makes you look incredibly stupid) and realize that our offense will continue to suck until the Oline is FIXED. It's going to be a VERY long season.

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

We shouldn't have switched to 3-4, and no you don't take LB's that high.

Do you want me to lay out the way I think we should have played it?

You could argue not to take a 3-4 DE that high either. So if you weren't gonna play by the rules then the Curry pick still makes more sense.

But you can lay it out the way you would have gone.

salame · 09-28-2009, 01:57 AM

They should have taken Eugene Monroe

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 02:01 AM

This is the way I would have played out the offseason if it was me...

I don't have a problem with anyone that was cut other than I would have cut LJ too, he's overpaid for a RB and I'd have dumped that money.

I think we should have signed Jason Brown we'd be overpaying for a center but we're in position to do it and we have the worst center in the league. I would have also looked at Ray Willis who ended up staying in Seattle as a backup for a reasonable price but those 2 guys would have been worth signs.

I would have taken Sanchez with the top pick...Britton with the 2 who is a prototypical RT prospect. 3rd rounder I'd have gone with a personal favorite of mine in Jared Cook. In round 4 I'm going with the DE Lawrence Sidbury followed up in round 5 with Duke Robinson, In round 6 I'm going James Davis to replace LJ who I cut. In the 7th I'd have taken Dannell Ellerbee.

Now I know you're going to look at that and think our D still sucks though but here's the thing next year has elite D prospects if we would stick in 4-3 Dorsey is in his spot and you can put Carlos Dunlap a true elite pass rushing end prospect next to him...

I think we should have hired a DC from the Eagles and put that D scheme in, they make blah LB's look good and that scheme works, it'd be better than going 3-4.

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 02:27 AM

Thats a good take Mecca, your more knowlegable about a lot of the players coming out of the draft then me.

And I really did like Sanchez, but I'm not upset with getting Cassel. I think he will be a good qb giving the chance.

What was the reason Duke slipped so far, I thought he was a projected 2nd rounder?

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 02:28 AM

Because teams thought he was "lazy in offseason workouts" stunner that a 6'5 340lb man is a bit lazy eh?

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Because teams thought he was "lazy in offseason workouts" stunner that a 6'5 340lb man is a bit lazy eh?

LOL, ya I probably wouldn't get off the couch

How is he doing in Carolina?

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco

LOL, ya I probably wouldn't get off the couch

How is he doing in Carolina?

Well he made their team, he's one of their backups I think.

Coogs · 09-28-2009, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Now I know you're going to look at that and think our D still sucks though but here's the thing next year has elite D prospects if we would stick in 4-3 Dorsey is in his spot and you can put Carlos Dunlap a true elite pass rushing end prospect next to him...

I think we should have hired a DC from the Eagles and put that D scheme in, they make blah LB's look good and that scheme works, it'd be better than going 3-4.

Going forward with the 4-3.

D-line... RDE ?, Dorsey, Mcgee, Jackson
LBS... RLB?, Mays, LLB?
CB's... Set there
Safties... OK for now?

Seems pretty doable without forcing things.

Chiefnj2 · 09-28-2009, 07:40 AM

A 43 is not going to happen.

Coogs · 09-28-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

A 43 is not going to happen.

I'm not saying this year, and it did not appear Mecca was referencing this season either. Just pondering the future.

LaChapelle · 09-28-2009, 07:45 AM

QB, RB, and CB are 3 areas that I don't think should be argued over. They're good enough for now. Better decisions can always be made, but they're not killing this team.

Chiefnj2 · 09-28-2009, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

I'm not saying this year, and it did not appear Mecca was referencing this season either. Just pondering the future.

Why would they jump into a 34 this year, using the first and third round picks on 34 DE's, only to reverse course next year? Not going to happen.

Chiefnj2 · 09-28-2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I would have taken Sanchez with the top pick...Britton with the 2 who is a prototypical RT prospect. 3rd rounder I'd have gone with a personal favorite of mine in Jared Cook. In round 4 I'm going with the DE Lawrence Sidbury followed up in round 5 with Duke Robinson, In round 6 I'm going James Davis to replace LJ who I cut. In the 7th I'd have taken Dannell Ellerbee.
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Is there a single pre-draft post where you said KC should take Britton?

Mr. Arrowhead · 09-28-2009, 07:49 AM

you know what our record would be if Sanchez was our starting QB, the same it is now, 0-3

MMXcalibur · 09-28-2009, 07:50 AM

Stop me if I'm wrong, but I think Mark Sanchez is a Jet now.....
I think.....

09-27-2009, 11:31 PM
jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	@people that think Sanchez would be a better fit Are you freaking stupid? Serious question. Sanchez would be 0-3 and probably look worse behind this oline.Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Manning would be 0-3. There is NO time to throw. Every time Cassell dropped back he 3-4 defenders in his face. When Vermiel was here we had a great oline...one of the best in the league. 2 HoFers helped pave the way for Priest, LJ and company. They gave time to an above average QB (Trent Green) and below average receivers to field the best offense in the league. You all freaking witnessed it...so how did you become so dumb and forget that the Oline makes the offense, just like the Dline (pass rush) makes the defense? Fix the Oline-Matt has time to actually look further than 3-5 yards down the field. Becomes a star player (Trent was as a average-above average QB) and the RB's rush for 1700+ yards. Fix the Dline(time and coaching)/OLBs(new players)--Our defense actually looks like Philly's Defense. I'd probably take our dbacks over theres and many other teams starters but they look like crap because NO ONE CAN COVER for 5-8 seconds play after play...not even Deon Sanders in his prime. So stop with the Sanchez posts. Stop with the Tebow posts (which really makes you look incredibly stupid) and realize that our offense will continue to suck until the Oline is FIXED. It's going to be a VERY long season.
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09-28-2009, 01:57 AM	#167
salame Under the Sofa Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10010607	They should have taken Eugene Monroe
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09-28-2009, 02:01 AM	#168
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-692950	This is the way I would have played out the offseason if it was me... I don't have a problem with anyone that was cut other than I would have cut LJ too, he's overpaid for a RB and I'd have dumped that money. I think we should have signed Jason Brown we'd be overpaying for a center but we're in position to do it and we have the worst center in the league. I would have also looked at Ray Willis who ended up staying in Seattle as a backup for a reasonable price but those 2 guys would have been worth signs. I would have taken Sanchez with the top pick...Britton with the 2 who is a prototypical RT prospect. 3rd rounder I'd have gone with a personal favorite of mine in Jared Cook. In round 4 I'm going with the DE Lawrence Sidbury followed up in round 5 with Duke Robinson, In round 6 I'm going James Davis to replace LJ who I cut. In the 7th I'd have taken Dannell Ellerbee. Now I know you're going to look at that and think our D still sucks though but here's the thing next year has elite D prospects if we would stick in 4-3 Dorsey is in his spot and you can put Carlos Dunlap a true elite pass rushing end prospect next to him... I think we should have hired a DC from the Eagles and put that D scheme in, they make blah LB's look good and that scheme works, it'd be better than going 3-4.
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09-28-2009, 02:27 AM	#169
kcpasco MVP Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $6143463	Thats a good take Mecca, your more knowlegable about a lot of the players coming out of the draft then me. And I really did like Sanchez, but I'm not upset with getting Cassel. I think he will be a good qb giving the chance. What was the reason Duke slipped so far, I thought he was a projected 2nd rounder?
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09-28-2009, 02:28 AM	#170
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-692950	Because teams thought he was "lazy in offseason workouts" stunner that a 6'5 340lb man is a bit lazy eh?
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09-28-2009, 07:40 AM	#174
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	A 43 is not going to happen. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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09-28-2009, 07:45 AM	#176
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	QB, RB, and CB are 3 areas that I don't think should be argued over. They're good enough for now. Better decisions can always be made, but they're not killing this team.
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09-28-2009, 07:49 AM	#179
Mr. Arrowhead MVP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $10015708	you know what our record would be if Sanchez was our starting QB, the same it is now, 0-3
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09-28-2009, 07:50 AM	#180
MMXcalibur Pessimistically optimistic. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $-144914	Stop me if I'm wrong, but I think Mark Sanchez is a Jet now..... I think.....
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