Chiefs I like what Haley did yesterday... - Page 2

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 07:36 AM

3 yards rushing in the 1st half? No, you are going to run the ****ing ball. You are not going to be allowed to drop back and watch your QB get killed because you can't run the ****ing ball. It is similar to making a hitter lay a bunt down with 2 strikes after he couldn't do it on strikes 1 and 2.

Fatlock can cry that Haley isn't treating them like men all he wants. He needs to stick to his doublestuffs. This team isn't going to compete for a playoff spot anyway so this is exactly the time to pull stunts like this. You want to win? You have to learn how to block. You have to learn how to run the ball. 3 ****ing yards in 1 half is pathetic and I don't blame Haley one bit for what he did.

It isn't like we had 30 yards in the 1st half..we had 3. Three. Unacceptable, PERIOD! Dropping back to pass would have resulted in Cassel being broken into pieces.

I don't know what game Fatlock and some others watched, but I saw one that showed me our O line was there in name only. Had we dropped back, which is exactly what Philly wanted, we would be cussing about the picks Cassel threw or the fact that Brokie would be the starter for the next several weeks cause of Cassel being hurt.

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

What would who? Me?

Um...I'll start with, "Try."

If you're worried about getting Cassel killed, pull him and let Thigpen face the gladiators.

Uh, Thig was inactive.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 07:54 AM

If that was our response to the Philly defense, I'd expect the Giants staff to be on the phone this morning, making sure that we're not forfeiting this Sunday.

Mr. Arrowhead · 09-28-2009, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

3 yards rushing in the 1st half? No, you are going to run the ****ing ball. You are not going to be allowed to drop back and watch your QB get killed because you can't run the ****ing ball. It is similar to making a hitter lay a bunt down with 2 strikes after he couldn't do it on strikes 1 and 2.

Fatlock can cry that Haley isn't treating them like men all he wants. He needs to stick to his doublestuffs. This team isn't going to compete for a playoff spot anyway so this is exactly the time to pull stunts like this. You want to win? You have to learn how to block. You have to learn how to run the ball. 3 ****ing yards in 1 half is pathetic and I don't blame Haley one bit for what he did.

It isn't like we had 30 yards in the 1st half..we had 3. Three. Unacceptable, PERIOD! Dropping back to pass would have resulted in Cassel being broken into pieces.

I don't know what game Fatlock and some others watched, but I saw one that showed me our O line was there in name only. Had we dropped back, which is exactly what Philly wanted, we would be cussing about the picks Cassel threw or the fact that Brokie would be the starter for the next several weeks cause of Cassel being hurt.

yup i agree completely

**SAUTO** · 09-28-2009, 07:55 AM

i agree with you pete

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Uh, Thig was inactive.

3rd string QB? Oops...look, Cassel is hurt.

For all intents and purposes, Haley waved the white flag, and talk about his "purpose" or whatever the **** he said rings about as meaningful to me as "the right 53."

stevieray · 09-28-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Yeah.... it's called a three step drop. Haley is an offensive 'genious' I thought he would have known about this.

really? wow. that's amazing.

**Bearcat** · 09-28-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

"Sometimes your personnel dictates that you play the game a certain way." /Herm/

If that were Herm on the sideline yesterday, the reaction would be unbelievable. It's wasn't, so we justify it.

I agree, and I agreed with Whitlock..... my main concern with Herm was, once we got the talent, would his decision making change at all?

The answer I ended up with was an emphatic NO. My biggest issue with Herm was that when he had the chance to win the game, he'd punt. He'd rather give the ball back to guys like Peyton f***ing Manning and Brett f***ing Favre in the last few minutes than even try to drive down the field.

I was in a wait-and-see mode for a while with Herm, and I'll do the same with Haley.... Hell, I tried to give Herm the benefit of the doubt after it took the Chiefs almost 3 quarters to get a first down against the Colts in the playoffs, so might as well give Haley more than 3 games....

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

3rd string QB? Oops...look, Cassel is hurt.

For all intents and purposes, Haley waved the white flag, and talk about his "purpose" or whatever the **** he said rings about as meaningful to me as "the right 53."

What does this have to do with the fact that Thig was inactive yesterday? You said to throw him in...we played with 2 QB's yesterday. Thig was inactive.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

I agree, and I agreed with Whitlock..... my main concern with Herm was, once we got the talent, would his decision making change at all?

The answer I ended up with was an emphatic NO. My biggest issue with Herm was that when he had the chance to win the game, he'd punt. He'd rather give the ball back to guys like Peyton f***ing Manning and Brett f***ing Favre in the last few minutes than even try to drive down the field.

I was in a wait-and-see mode for a while with Herm, and I'll do the same with Haley.... Hell, I tried to give Herm the benefit of the doubt after it took the Chiefs almost 3 quarters to get a first down against the Colts in the playoffs, so might as well give Haley more than 3 games....

I agree with all of this.

It's possible to think that Haley made a huge mistake yesterday without thinking the guy will be a failure as a HC. But I'm not going to ty to bullshit a positive out of yesterday, either.

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray

really? wow. that's amazing.

Haley I am sure will be relieved to know there is a thing called a 3-step drop.

MMXcalibur · 09-28-2009, 08:02 AM

Bad topic. BAD!

If the square peg doesn't fit into the circle hole, you don't keep pounding the ****in' peg in the hole and yell at little Billy while he's doing it. Instead, you give him a fork and point him to the electrical socket.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

What does this have to do with the fact that Thig was inactive yesterday? You said to throw him in...we played with 2 QB's yesterday. Thig was inactive.

I'm sure he was the emergency QB, in which case he could theoretically enter the game.

But I wouldn't have pulled Cassel, our 27, in-his-prime QB. I would have actually tried with our "franchise" QB at the helm.

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-28-2009, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

What does this have to do with the fact that Thig was inactive yesterday? You said to throw him in...we played with 2 QB's yesterday. Thig was inactive.

Third QB is the emergency QB and is always inactive.

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Third QB is the emergency QB and is always inactive.

As I understand it, he was not dressed and not able to play. I could be wrong.

Chiefnj2 · 09-28-2009, 08:08 AM

At least Herm was smart enough to let Gailey run with the pistol when he realized the offense was a complete mess.

09-28-2009, 07:36 AM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1205873	I like what Haley did yesterday... 3 yards rushing in the 1st half? No, you are going to run the **ing ball. You are not going to be allowed to drop back and watch your QB get killed because you can't run the ing ball. It is similar to making a hitter lay a bunt down with 2 strikes after he couldn't do it on strikes 1 and 2. Fatlock can cry that Haley isn't treating them like men all he wants. He needs to stick to his doublestuffs. This team isn't going to compete for a playoff spot anyway so this is exactly the time to pull stunts like this. You want to win? You have to learn how to block. You have to learn how to run the ball. 3 **ing yards in 1 half is pathetic and I don't blame Haley one bit for what he did. It isn't like we had 30 yards in the 1st half..we had 3. Three. Unacceptable, PERIOD! Dropping back to pass would have resulted in Cassel being broken into pieces. I don't know what game Fatlock and some others watched, but I saw one that showed me our O line was there in name only. Had we dropped back, which is exactly what Philly wanted, we would be cussing about the picks Cassel threw or the fact that Brokie would be the starter for the next several weeks cause of Cassel being hurt.
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SAUTO Shit Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10039067	i agree with you pete
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MMXcalibur Pessimistically optimistic. Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $-144914	Bad topic. BAD! If the square peg doesn't fit into the circle hole, you don't keep pounding the ****in' peg in the hole and yell at little Billy while he's doing it. Instead, you give him a fork and point him to the electrical socket.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	At least Herm was smart enough to let Gailey run with the pistol when he realized the offense was a complete mess. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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