Chiefs I like what Haley did yesterday... - Page 4

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 07:36 AM

3 yards rushing in the 1st half? No, you are going to run the ****ing ball. You are not going to be allowed to drop back and watch your QB get killed because you can't run the ****ing ball. It is similar to making a hitter lay a bunt down with 2 strikes after he couldn't do it on strikes 1 and 2.

Fatlock can cry that Haley isn't treating them like men all he wants. He needs to stick to his doublestuffs. This team isn't going to compete for a playoff spot anyway so this is exactly the time to pull stunts like this. You want to win? You have to learn how to block. You have to learn how to run the ball. 3 ****ing yards in 1 half is pathetic and I don't blame Haley one bit for what he did.

It isn't like we had 30 yards in the 1st half..we had 3. Three. Unacceptable, PERIOD! Dropping back to pass would have resulted in Cassel being broken into pieces.

I don't know what game Fatlock and some others watched, but I saw one that showed me our O line was there in name only. Had we dropped back, which is exactly what Philly wanted, we would be cussing about the picks Cassel threw or the fact that Brokie would be the starter for the next several weeks cause of Cassel being hurt.

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

"With him doing what he did, I think he did lose a lot of confidence from the players."

"Players are like, 'What are you doing?'"

"It was mind boggling."

"It's killing the guys in the locker room."

Eddie Kennison on 810 talking about the play calling in the second half.

Then maybe they should learn how to block?

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I get it, we should get our QB's killed to satisfy an urge that would ultimately lead us to no where anyway.

We couldn't block, PERIOD.

If you're worried about getting Cassel hurt, if that was the sole motivator, put someone else in.

Forfeit this Sunday, however, for sure.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Then maybe they should learn how to block?

Maybe the Executive of the Century should acquire the necessary talent on the o-line, which he could have vastly improved this off-season.

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

If you're worried about getting Cassel hurt, if that was the sole motivator, put someone else in.

Forfeit this Sunday, however, for sure.

The way we were blocking, or lack thereof, we didn't have enough someone's to put in.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

The way we were blocking, or lack thereof, we didn't have enough someone's to put in.

Do you think we should even attempt a pass this Sunday? Because the Giants pass rush is even better.

What should we do?

LaChapelle · 09-28-2009, 08:26 AM

I hope it's not a problem until it becomes a trend :fingerscrossed:

FloridaMan88 · 09-28-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Do you think we should even attempt a pass this Sunday? Because the Giants pass rush is even better.

What should we do?

Is Marv Levy available? Break-out the Wing-T offense

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Do you think we should even attempt a pass this Sunday? Because the Giants pass rush is even better.

What should we do?

Well let us wait and see if the O-line figured anything out, Mr, Dramatic. Othwerise, if we still can't block, dropping back to get sacked and fumble is not a good strategy, imo.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Well let us wait and see if the O-line figured anything out, Mr, Dramatic. Othwerise, if we still can't block, dropping back to get sacked and fumble is not a good strategy, imo.

Now we're getting sacked AND fumbling, in addition to getting our QBs KILLED? We didn't even have enough on the roster to try to drop back to pass?

And I'm being dramatic?!? Ok. lol.

SenselessChiefsFan · 09-28-2009, 08:31 AM

As with all things, I have an opinion, and my opinion is that Haley gave up.

With that said, I wonder if Haley did it to prove a point. I liked Haley going into the Oakland game, but over the last two weeks, Haley has had two of the worst back to back coaching performances in the history of the Chiefs.

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle

I hope it's not a problem until it becomes a trend :fingerscrossed:

If Haley pulls this again then we proably have something to bitch about. But I am all for him sending this team a message. That was some of the worst O-Line play I have seen in a long time.

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

As with all things, I have an opinion, and my opinion is that Haley gave up.

With that said, I wonder if Haley did it to prove a point. I liked Haley going into the Oakland game, but over the last two weeks, Haley has had two of the worst back to back coaching performances in the history of the Chiefs.

What did he do that was so bad against Oakland? Did he make Cassel throw 2 pics? Did he make two guys jump on the QB and draw a personal foul?

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

If Haley pulls this again then we proably have something to bitch about. But I am all for him sending this team a message. That was some of the worst O-Line play I have seen in a long time.

What was the message, exactly? I'm tired of seeing you fail at pass blocking, so let's see some more fail at run blocking?

A message of "toughness", which is a bigger load of shit than saying that Herm "played to win the game"?

The only message that was sent was that he didn't have any faith in his players, and that's a dangerous thing for a coach to implicitly say.

**petegz28** · 09-28-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

What was the message, exactly? I'm tired of seeing you fail at pass blocking, so let's see some more fail at run blocking?

A message of "toughness", which is a bigger load of shit than saying that Herm "played to win the game"?

The only message that was sent was that he didn't have any faith in his players, and that's a dangerous thing for a coach to implicitly say.

Yes, cause the players we have are stellar and we don't want to piss them off.

On one hand you people are crying cause Ndukwe is on the team and on the other you are crying cause he wasn't treated like a pro-bowler.

**DeezNutz** · 09-28-2009, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Yes, cause the players we have are stellar and we don't want to piss them off.

On one hand you people are crying cause Ndukwe is on the team and on the other you are crying cause he wasn't treated like a pro-bowler.

You're making a huge leap.

Like a Pro-Bowler, please? In any sport, there has to be mutual trust between player and coach, and there is a distinct possibility that Haley fractured that trust yesterday.

Repairable? Probably, but not if things continue in this light.

09-28-2009, 07:36 AM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1205873	I like what Haley did yesterday... 3 yards rushing in the 1st half? No, you are going to run the **ing ball. You are not going to be allowed to drop back and watch your QB get killed because you can't run the ing ball. It is similar to making a hitter lay a bunt down with 2 strikes after he couldn't do it on strikes 1 and 2. Fatlock can cry that Haley isn't treating them like men all he wants. He needs to stick to his doublestuffs. This team isn't going to compete for a playoff spot anyway so this is exactly the time to pull stunts like this. You want to win? You have to learn how to block. You have to learn how to run the ball. 3 **ing yards in 1 half is pathetic and I don't blame Haley one bit for what he did. It isn't like we had 30 yards in the 1st half..we had 3. Three. Unacceptable, PERIOD! Dropping back to pass would have resulted in Cassel being broken into pieces. I don't know what game Fatlock and some others watched, but I saw one that showed me our O line was there in name only. Had we dropped back, which is exactly what Philly wanted, we would be cussing about the picks Cassel threw or the fact that Brokie would be the starter for the next several weeks cause of Cassel being hurt.
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LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	I hope it's not a problem until it becomes a trend :fingerscrossed:
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SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	As with all things, I have an opinion, and my opinion is that Haley gave up. With that said, I wonder if Haley did it to prove a point. I liked Haley going into the Oakland game, but over the last two weeks, Haley has had two of the worst back to back coaching performances in the history of the Chiefs.
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