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Old 09-28-2009, 06:50 AM  
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We are ***OFFICIALLY*** the worst team in the NFL.
The Lions won today. The Raiders beat us in our home opener and couldn't have looked worse today. Who's left?..Bueller....Buelller...Thats right it's us.

Thats the reality. How'd we get from being one of the top teams in 2003 to the worse in 6 years? IMHO,

Talent.

It's obvious to anyone that our problem is talent. We are deficient in talent at just about every position.

Drafting Decisions:
King Carl after Marty left and then Dick Vermiel had horrible drafts that we are paying for now. I had so many King Carl must go threads and rants on here, people were pissed off by the number. King Carl was fired so at least we are moving on.

I'll withhold judgement on Pioli until we see if Cassell and Jackson pan out. Cassell is running for his life. He showed some passion at home last week. That was one beautiful throw to the corner of the end zone. Lots of potential upside. Many a defensive lineman has been just okay in their first few years in the league and then became studs. It's rare that a DL makes a impact right away. So we just have to wait for a final decision on Jackson.

Free Agency decisions.:
Again, King Carl whiffed on so many, it would be impossible to detail all those poor decision here. But, I think we are all in agreement that he sucked the big one in this catagory also.

I don't remember any FA that we let go to another team that could have helped us this off season. Any pickups that could have turned around the team this year. Woudn't have mattered this year. Again, Pioli gets a pass this year from me for FA decisions, but not next year.

I can't blame Haley for this mess. Lombardi and Parcells couldn't make this team a winner with this talent level. Pioli can't make the team a winner in one off season. Maybe Haley can't coach or run a team. but with this serious lack of talent how can we judge him after 3 games that he sucks?

If we don't see a vast effort to improve the talent on the team this off season, then I'll join the chorus of "off with their heads". but for now I'll just suffer on a weekly basis seeing this once proud team reduced to being the worst team in football.
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:50 AM   #31
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I don't know Man-Genius has made the Browns a joke.He talks about not switching QB's after keeping his starter a secret till 3 seconds before the season starts..... Then he yanks Quin our for Anderson who blows it.That guy is a fuggn joke a patamus!!!!
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Old 09-28-2009, 07:58 AM   #32
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:00 AM   #33
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We're better than Cleveland.
I haven't watched a Clevland game this year but have so so pretty good highlights. But as I said by the end of the year I think we will not be the worst team in the NFL.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:04 AM   #34
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What I don't get is how we were better last year w/ Herm coaching_ Thigpen at QB, and only playing very young players in an effort to develop them early.

Now we have Cassel, a bunch of older veterans, and Arrowhead on lockdown, but we got worse.

Last year we had close losses against decent teams. Now we're just getting blown the **** out.
did you not watch the Falcons, TItans, or panther game last year, all 3 of those were worse than what we saw yesterday easily.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:09 AM   #35
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You all do realize that Tampa did not have a 1st Down, yes a first down, until 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:11 AM   #36
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You all do realize that Tampa did not have a 1st Down, yes a first down, until 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?
And we get that same Giants defense this Sunday.

It will be their third round game, so we should benefit from this. But let's see how effective our offense looks.
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Old 09-28-2009, 08:14 AM   #37
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I mock people for rooting for the Cubs, yet I root for the Cubs of football. And that isn't even a fair comparison, since the Cubs are actually competitive.

I was going to drive down for the Buffalo game, but after yesterday's abortion I told my buddy not to bother getting tickets. I wouldn't walk across the street to watch these loser mother****ers right now.

Seriously, I've about had enough. I don't remember the ****ing championship they won when I was FOUR, and frankly it means nothing to me.

$350+ to watch these turds on Sunday Ticket and I usually can't make it through the second quarter.

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Old 09-28-2009, 08:20 AM   #38
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I agree. I don't think we will be the worst team in football at the end of the year. You give Cassell some time to throw and some better recievers, he will be able to deliver the ball.
Yeah, right now it is hard to be good when every big play comes back for holding and we have dropped 5 INT's in the last 2 weeks.
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Yeah, right now it is hard to be good when every big play comes back for holding and we have dropped 5 INT's in the last 2 weeks.
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You all do realize that Tampa did not have a 1st Down, yes a first down, until 4 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?
we might not fare any better.
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I think Tampa Bay is worse than the Chiefs are. And St. Louis is no great shakes either, although they did win the Governor's cup game.
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Damn...forgot Tampa Bay.

Tampa Bay, St. Louis and KC are all tied for second worst in the league.
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I can't blame Haley for this mess. Lombardi and Parcells couldn't make this team a winner with this talent level. Pioli can't make the team a winner in one off season. Maybe Haley can't coach or run a team. but with this serious lack of talent how can we judge him after 3 games that he sucks?

If we don't see a vast effort to improve the talent on the team this off season, then I'll join the chorus of "off with their heads". but for now I'll just suffer on a weekly basis seeing this once proud team reduced to being the worst team in football.
My question is why couldn't they have done more to address that serious lack of talent? We have plenty of cap space. To the point that we were forced to spend money because we didn't hit the minimum. Why wasn't there more effort to address the serious lack of talent when we had the resources to do so? We all knew we had a lack of talent. And they can't fix it in one offseason. But it still doesn't look like they did nearly as much as they could have...
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