This Sanchez Chap

[Donger]

I fully admit that I'm not very savvy when it comes to football, but while watching the Chiefs game this weekend, CBS suddenly turned to the Jets' game instead (I'm not really sure why). Anyway, the Jets had a QB named Sanchez that seemed really good a throwing the ball (which is, I think, the primary goal of a QB). So, I started thinking: "I think this is the chap who the Chiefs could have drafted this year, but didn't."

Is that correct?

If so, how much are the Jets paying this Sanchez fellow in comparison to Cassel?

Thanks.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I never said he hasn't made plays. I said they are winning because of the defense. That's a fact. Sanchez playing for the Rams and they are still 0-3.

And outside of Colston, New Orleans doesn't have great WR's. Comparing Brees to Trent Green is the failure. Green was never as good as Brees is now.

When has Brees played from behind and made big plays?

He's playing great when playing with a lead, but hasn't been tested.

I'm not saying that he will fail in the clutch, only that he hasn't had to play in the clutch.

Until he does, he is just another QB putting up big numbers, just like Trent Green.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I never said he hasn't made plays. I said they are winning because of the defense. That's a fact. Sanchez playing for the Rams and they are still 0-3.

He's not playing for the Rams.

He's playing for the Jets.

If he doesn't make the plays he's making, Jets lose, that defense notwithstanding.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by milkman

When has Brees played from behind and made big plays?

He's playing great when playing with a lead, but hasn't been tested.

I'm not saying that he will fail in the clutch, only that he hasn't had to play in the clutch.

Until he does, he is just another QB putting up big numbers, just like Trent Green.

Green was a guy that could turn around and hand off to a 1500-1700 yard back. Brees hasn't had that. So he's had to carry the load exclusively. Green NEVER had to do that in Kansas City and that alone makes a difference. Not to mention a playoff win by Brees as well.

[Otter]

Donger your subtly in stirring shit may be the best I've ever seen.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by milkman

He's not playing for the Rams.

He's playing for the Jets.

If he doesn't make the plays he's making, Jets lose, that defense notwithstanding.

If he doesn't have that defense they aren't even in a position for his plays to matter.

THAT is the point. The Jets winning with defense. Sanchez threw for less than 180 yards the last two games each. He's not being asked to do THAT much.

[TheGuardian]

Sanchez will be asked, more than likely, to win a game today. Because the Saints are going to score points and their defense looks to be pretty good. So we'll see how he does in a situation where he is asked to score points to keep up.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

If he doesn't have that defense they aren't even in a position for his plays to matter.

THAT is the point. The Jets winning with defense. Sanchez threw for less than 180 yards the last two games each. He's not being asked to do THAT much.

No dumbass, that isn't the point.

It's a ****ing team game, and you are dismissing a guy making clutch plays in big situations simply because the defense is playing well.

I got news for ya.
Defenses don't score more points than the opposition very often.
The offense is generally charged with the task of scoring points, and the Jets offense, with Mark Sanchez at the helm, making plays, is scoring more points than the other team.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by milkman

No dumbass, that isn't the point.

It's a ****ing team game, and you are dismissing a guy making clutch plays in big situations simply because the defense is playing well.

I got news for ya.
Defenses don't score more points than the opposition very often.
The offense is generally charged with the task of scoring points, and the Jets offense, with Mark Sanchez at the helm, making plays, is scoring more points than the other team.

Time to come up for air and either spit or swallow.
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[milkman]

Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Time to come up for air and either spit or swallow.
Posted via Mobile Device

You are obviously in need of some air, Pioli Smoker.

It's good thing you decided to do it.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by milkman

No dumbass, that isn't the point.

It's a ****ing team game, and you are dismissing a guy making clutch plays in big situations simply because the defense is playing well.

I got news for ya.
Defenses don't score more points than the opposition very often.
The offense is generally charged with the task of scoring points, and the Jets offense, with Mark Sanchez at the helm, making plays, is scoring more points than the other team.

I haven't thrown any barbs in this discussion and right off the bat you come at me with the dumbass. Nice.

I know it's a team game. I've spent more time playing it than you have using your fucking metamucil and drinking ensure. But the fact is Sanchez is being carried by his defense. When you're throwing for 168 yard you're not "winning" games. You're just not losing them. When you're defense is only allowing 15 points a game you don't have to make a lot of "clutch" plays to win games. Just don't fuck it up. So far that's what he has done. Today we'll see what happens if the Saints hang 30 on them and he's asked to keep up. I don't think he'll fare so well.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by TheGuardian

I haven't thrown any barbs in this discussion and right off the bat you come at me with the dumbass. Nice.

I know it's a team game. I've spent more time playing it than you have using your fucking metamucil and drinking ensure. But the fact is Sanchez is being carried by his defense. When you're throwing for 168 yard you're not "winning" games. You're just not losing them. When you're defense is only allowing 15 points a game you don't have to make a lot of "clutch" plays to win games. Just don't fuck it up. So far that's what he has done. Today we'll see what happens if the Saints hang 30 on them and he's asked to keep up. I don't think he'll fare so well.

When your ground game isn't producing at the level you expected, and you put your team in third and long situations consistently, and your QB keeps making good decisions and making plays consistently in those 3rd and long situations, he isn't simply not losing games.

He's making plays to help you win games.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by milkman

When your ground game isn't producing at the level you expected, and you put your team in third and long situations consistently, and your QB keeps making good decisions and making plays consistently in those 3rd and long situations, he isn't simply not losing games.

He's making plays to help you win games.

Like I said, we'll see what happens if New Orleans hangs 30+ on them. Playing tight games is one thing, having to play in a come from behind situation in a high scoring game on the road is something completely different.

[milkman]

Watching Playbook NFC right now, and Brian Billick says that the Jets are winning right now because Sanchez is making plays.

I guess he should have consulted with the Guardian before he made that assessment, since the Guardian has played so much junior college football.

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by milkman

Watching Playbook NFC right now, and Brian Billick says that the Jets are winning right now because Sanchez is making plays.

I guess he should have consulted with the Guardian before he made that assessment, since the Guardian has played so much junior college football.

Oops!


Sanchez is the real deal. He is a franchise QB and is playing as such...

[Reerun_KC]

BTW, nobody, nobody in the NFL is talking about our QB...