Chiefs What were your impressions of the game? - Page 3

htismaqe · 10-05-2009, 08:24 AM

The game wasn't on in my market yesterday and radio coverage was spotty all day, so I only heard portions of the game.

Who played well? Who didn't? Were there any surprises?

For example, it sounded to me like maybe Big Irish at RT was what most of us expected - a little better at run blocking, a little worse at pass blocking.

Give me your take.

Tom_A_Hawk · 10-05-2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

You sound like you didn't even watch the game.

Larry had carries that went for 8, 7, 5, 4, 15, 10, 3, 19 and 7 yards.

That's 9 carries for 78 yards.

We got good production from the running game yesterday. If the passing game wasn't a complete cluster****, we could actually put some drives together. Sad...

I watched 11 minutes total.....big waste of a beautiful Sunday afternoon to sit and what that cluster

That is interesting that your numbers don't jive with the NFL numbers. Are WPI statistics figured differently?

wild1 · 10-05-2009, 10:46 AM

Well if the line sucks and the running back sucks you aren't going to have much of a running game. Duh, ok.

Mr. Laz · 10-05-2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Precisely what I was looking for. Thanks! Anybody else?

The overall feel of the game was much like the Raven's game. Turnovers kept us in the game but it felt like we were over matched the entire time.

Offensive line did better ... better run blocking and pass blocking.

Cassel looked like he was expecting to get sacked so even when he didn't he still was nervous in the pocket and didn't throw the ball well. He missed 2 open receivers on long passes that would of probably been touchdowns. He threw behind the receiver on several others. Not good.

Offensive play calling was weird. We would run the ball with success 2/3 times in a row and instead of using that to go play action pass, Haley would continue to run the ball until we got stuffed a few times and then go to the pass in 3rd and long.

he also went to the draw play at the most unusual times. Normally you go to a draw after you have had some success throwing the ball but haley would actually go to the draw when the defense was looking run. It made no sense..

our cornerbacks got burnt sever times early in the game but then got better as the game went along.

Jacobs > our linebackers

return game is still rough ... Charles has a fumble problem and Wade really doesn't seem to want to have anything to do with punt returns. He pretty much looks for any excuse to fair catch it.

**Saulbadguy** · 10-05-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i enjoyed my sunday much more than usual...spent time outside, not pissed off about a game...

How come everyone's alternate activity to watching the game always sounds really, really lame?

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You are absolutely freaking out of your mind.

LJ finished the day with 53 yards.

Cassel, running for his life, had 25 yards. Don't pretend like those were designed plays.

Charles had 2 carries for 24 yards, with a long of 24 yards. That came on the final drive, when it hardly mattered.

So while statistically they had more than 100 yards, the stats clearly don't tell the entire story.

Or even part of it.

The run games still has serious, serious problems.

Agreed. But saying it didn't make progress is ridiculous.

Tom_A_Hawk · 10-05-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_A_Hawk

I watched 11 minutes total.....big waste of a beautiful Sunday afternoon to sit and what that cluster

That is interesting that your numbers don't jive with the NFL numbers. Are WPI statistics figured differently?

L. Johnson 18 53 0 15 -- 18 carries--53 yards -- longest 15 yards
M. Cassel 4 25 0 12
J. Charles 2 24 0 24
J. Battle 1 3 0 3

**The Franchise** · 10-05-2009, 10:54 AM

I didn't watch the game.

How did O'Callaghan do? Is he at least holding up the RT position?

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_A_Hawk

That is interesting that your numbers don't jive with the NFL numbers. Are WPI statistics figured differently?

My numbers are taken directly from NFL.com play by play.

9 carries for 78 yards.

Good stuff for sure.

Tom_A_Hawk · 10-05-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Agreed. But saying it didn't make progress is ridiculous.

well, if you are going to get that technical.....LJ from 2.6 ypc to 2.9 ...progress indeed

Hammock Parties · 10-05-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_A_Hawk

L. Johnson 18 53 0 15 -- 18 carries--53 yards -- longest 15 yards
M. Cassel 4 25 0 12
J. Charles 2 24 0 24
J. Battle 1 3 0 3

His longest carry was 19 yards. NFL.com has a goof. They credited Brian Waters with LJ's 19-yard run for some reason in the play by play. I'm sure it will be fixed.

**Buehler445** · 10-05-2009, 10:55 AM

There were some good things. Most notably we did not get completely obliterated by Jacobs, which I fully expected. If you stack up the run defense from yesterday and compare it to Carolina and Tennessee from last year, major improvement. Jacobs got his and we gave up some, but given how NYG runs on everyone, I was pleased.

Got pressure occasionally, but nothing to affect a series. Coverage had some really nice bright spots, but Steve Smith was typically WIDE THE **** OPEN. Not making contested or difficult catches, WIDE THE **** OPEN. I have no clue what was going on. Our safeties blow. Boss hurt us some, but not as bad as I thought he would. It could be that our LBs are better in coverage than we anticipated or they didn't look his way because Steve Smith was typically WIDE THE **** OPEN.

Cassel played like ass. He got hit a lot and was always under pressure. Always. I only remember one time where he got protection (on a 3 step drop) and threw a perfect ball. He overthrew DBowe twice. It looked like Bowe wasn't full speed. Wade biffed a WR screen. None of the WRs did...anything.

Albert had a false start. Lots of missed assignments. Lots of getting blown off the ball. Lots of running draw plays, where instead of a hole, there were 2 LBs sprinting into the backfield. Lots of plays where the dude lined up over guard would step through the hole and hit Cassel/LJ right after the handoff. Just horrid line play. Horrid.

Officiating was really really bad. All over the place. Unacceptably bad.

Chiefs players were chippy. Lots of scuffles. Tyler got a personal foul penalty for ****ing with Bradshaw (who also got an offsetting penalty and was running his mouth all ****ing day), when given the opportunity, the D would lay some lumber, Vrable was in the face of the officials (rightfully so) quite a bit. For a team that sucks ass, they are certainly more spirited than anything we've seen here in several years.
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Tom_A_Hawk · 10-05-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

His longest carry was 19 yards. NFL.com has a goof. They credited Brian Waters with LJ's 19-yard run for some reason in the play by play. I'm sure it will be fixed.

...Waters at running back...that is a new thought

HC_Chief · 10-05-2009, 11:03 AM

Offense was putrid.
Special Teams was okay but outclassed by NYG.
Defense was ripped for 400+ yards.

This is a very bad football team.

The thing that stood out to me the most is NY did not respect our receivers AT ALL. They had absolutely zero fear of the deep pass.

For a team with as shitty an OL as KC has, for a team that is constantly allowing pass rushers to get to the QB, they are f*&#@ing terrible at executing screen passes! I don't know if the plays are too obvious, or if our OL is so gawdawful that they can't pull, or both? Regardless, this team cannot successfully execute a screen play.

Speaking of pulling OL, we need to stop that shit right now. Every time we pull an OG for a run, the man in front of them shoots right through the gap to take our RB down for a loss.

Playcalling was shit; especially in the red zone. From the six freaking yard line we ran shotgun passes on three of four snaps. The other was a shotgun sprint draw! WTF. I thought Haley wanted to build a running team? So why in the *#@$% would you go into a shotgun on the freaking goal line?

Seriously, this team has some major issues. It's not all personnel.

soundmind · 10-05-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Officiating was really really bad. All over the place. Unacceptably bad.

Chiefs players were chippy. Lots of scuffles. Tyler got a personal foul penalty for ****ing with Bradshaw (who also got an offsetting penalty and was running his mouth all ****ing day), when given the opportunity, the D would lay some lumber, Vrable was in the face of the officials (rightfully so) quite a bit. For a team that sucks ass, they are certainly more spirited than anything we've seen here in several years.
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That's about what I saw. Officiating was atrocious and transparent. If the Giants are on the WWE.....I mean, the NFL's "Win Sheet" for the week, then why play the game? I'm not saying the officials wrote this one in for us, we didn't play well, but there were a bevy of horrid calls. Balls being spotted 1.5 yards short, non-calls on the NYG OL for blatant holding/tackling, and the Page penalty was indeed crap.

MOhillbilly · 10-05-2009, 11:04 AM

My impression was that KC has yet to field a football team in the 09' season.

10-05-2009, 08:24 AM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8119900	What were your impressions of the game? The game wasn't on in my market yesterday and radio coverage was spotty all day, so I only heard portions of the game. Who played well? Who didn't? Were there any surprises? For example, it sounded to me like maybe Big Irish at RT was what most of us expected - a little better at run blocking, a little worse at pass blocking. Give me your take.
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10-05-2009, 10:46 AM	#32
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10-05-2009, 10:54 AM	#37
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10-05-2009, 10:55 AM	#41
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1575266	There were some good things. Most notably we did not get completely obliterated by Jacobs, which I fully expected. If you stack up the run defense from yesterday and compare it to Carolina and Tennessee from last year, major improvement. Jacobs got his and we gave up some, but given how NYG runs on everyone, I was pleased. Got pressure occasionally, but nothing to affect a series. Coverage had some really nice bright spots, but Steve Smith was typically WIDE THE ** OPEN. Not making contested or difficult catches, WIDE THE OPEN. I have no clue what was going on. Our safeties blow. Boss hurt us some, but not as bad as I thought he would. It could be that our LBs are better in coverage than we anticipated or they didn't look his way because Steve Smith was typically WIDE THE OPEN. Cassel played like ass. He got hit a lot and was always under pressure. Always. I only remember one time where he got protection (on a 3 step drop) and threw a perfect ball. He overthrew DBowe twice. It looked like Bowe wasn't full speed. Wade biffed a WR screen. None of the WRs did...anything. Albert had a false start. Lots of missed assignments. Lots of getting blown off the ball. Lots of running draw plays, where instead of a hole, there were 2 LBs sprinting into the backfield. Lots of plays where the dude lined up over guard would step through the hole and hit Cassel/LJ right after the handoff. Just horrid line play. Horrid. Officiating was really really bad. All over the place. Unacceptably bad. Chiefs players were chippy. Lots of scuffles. Tyler got a personal foul penalty for ing with Bradshaw (who also got an offsetting penalty and was running his mouth all *ing day), when given the opportunity, the D would lay some lumber, Vrable was in the face of the officials (rightfully so) quite a bit. For a team that sucks ass, they are certainly more spirited than anything we've seen here in several years. Posted via Mobile Device*
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10-05-2009, 11:03 AM	#43
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	Offense was putrid. Special Teams was okay but outclassed by NYG. Defense was ripped for 400+ yards. This is a very bad football team. The thing that stood out to me the most is NY did not respect our receivers AT ALL. They had absolutely zero fear of the deep pass. For a team with as shitty an OL as KC has, for a team that is constantly allowing pass rushers to get to the QB, they are f&#@ing terrible* at executing screen passes! I don't know if the plays are too obvious, or if our OL is so gawdawful that they can't pull, or both? Regardless, this team cannot successfully execute a screen play. Speaking of pulling OL, we need to stop that shit right now. Every time we pull an OG for a run, the man in front of them shoots right through the gap to take our RB down for a loss. Playcalling was shit; especially in the red zone. From the six freaking yard line we ran shotgun passes on three of four snaps. The other was a shotgun sprint draw! WTF. I thought Haley wanted to build a running team? So why in the *#@$% would you go into a shotgun on the freaking goal line? Seriously, this team has some major issues. It's not all personnel. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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10-05-2009, 11:04 AM	#45
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