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Old 10-05-2009, 11:24 AM   #1
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I know they care. He's also ultimately not accountable to them, he's accountable to Scott Pioli.

There's absolutely zero chance the comment has any effect on his career one way or another, because ultimately he's not going to be judged on this year alone. At the end of it all, he'll either have won enough games that people will have forgotten, or he'll have lost so many games that the comment is insignificant by comparison.

Furthermore, it's kind of interesting to see so many references to the comment NOW, when almost EVERYBODY thought they'd be no better than 1-7 halfway through the season.
Who said anything about it effecting his job as the HC?
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:28 AM   #2
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Who said anything about it effecting his job as the HC?
Why else would he regret it?

In general, people only regret saying things if there's real and concrete consequences.

He's not gonna get fired for saying it. Furthermore, the majority of fans and media that are bitching would have been bitching with or without that comment. So even if he did care about what they think, the comment is still fairly inconsequential.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:32 AM   #3
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Why else would he regret it?

In general, people only regret saying things if there's real and concrete consequences.

He's not gonna get fired for saying it. Furthermore, the majority of fans and media that are bitching would have been bitching with or without that comment. So even if he did care about what they think, the comment is still fairly inconsequential.
Not to mention the fact that it's hearsay. Jason Whitlock says that Brian Waters says that Todd Haley said...
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:33 AM   #4
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Not to mention the fact that it's hearsay. Jason Whitlock says that Brian Waters says that Todd Haley said...
And of course, that means it didn't happen
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:34 AM   #5
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And of course, that means it didn't happen
And if it did happen, so what?
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:36 AM   #6
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And if it did happen, so what?
Oh, I think it matters.

I think it shows disrespect towards others in the same profession.

I think it displays a "Know-It-All" attitude that's quite unnecessary, especially given it's his first head coaching job at any level.

The bottom line is that it's a comment made by an inexperienced man, regardless of profession.
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Old 10-05-2009, 12:04 PM   #7
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Oh, I think it matters.

I think it shows disrespect towards others in the same profession.

I think it displays a "Know-It-All" attitude that's quite unnecessary, especially given it's his first head coaching job at any level.

The bottom line is that it's a comment made by an inexperienced man, regardless of profession.
The bottom line is that he'll never feel any personal consequences for saying it, so outside of the minds of fans and Whitlock, it won't ever matter.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:36 AM   #8
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And of course, that means it didn't happen
Did I say that?

I'm of two minds on it. It might well have happened. But at the same time I don't think it's illogical to question the validity of it; Whitlock has clearly had an axe to grind since shortly after the hire. He's been throwing a tantrum for months now.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:38 AM   #9
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Did I say that?
No, you did not.

But there are many forum members here who believe that anything Whitlock writes is a complete fabrication, if for no other reason than they don't want to believe what's written. It's too difficult for them to comprehend what's being said because it goes against their own personal beliefs.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:55 AM   #10
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No, you did not.

But there are many forum members here who believe that anything Whitlock writes is a complete fabrication, if for no other reason than they don't want to believe what's written. It's too difficult for them to comprehend what's being said because it goes against their own personal beliefs.
Which is not a whole lot different than believing everything that he says...because it fits your own personal beliefs.

It's sort of an atheist versus christian (un-)religious fervor kind of thing. Whatever side folks are on, they hear what they want to hear, and stick their fingers in their ears with a "la-la-la!" for anything else. That's what talk on this board has deteriorated into unfortunately.

As for me, if it was a quote I could verify for myself, or something that other people could confirm, I'd buy it. But just Whitlock? Questionable at best, even though I think it's something that a guy like Haley could say. Although, as others have pointed out, if he's that arrogant, than the 'Pioli's shuffling porter' bit from the dinner wouldn't make any sense.

Let's just say there's a lot of stuff Whitlock's said this offseason about those two that just doesn't jibe for me based on what I've seen and heard myself from interviews and from coverage by other people in the media. Maybe that will change in time, I don't know.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:32 AM   #11
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Why else would he regret it?

In general, people only regret saying things if there's real and concrete consequences.

He's not gonna get fired for saying it. Furthermore, the majority of fans and media that are bitching would have been bitching with or without that comment. So even if he did care about what they think, the comment is still fairly inconsequential.
Wow. Your helmet is on waaaaaaaaaaay too tight this this morning. My comment was more in jest than anything else. But shit, why stop here, let's keep analyzing this thing.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:34 AM   #12
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Wow. Your helmet is on waaaaaaaaaaay too this this morning. My comment was more in jest than anything else. But shit, why stop here, let's keep analyzing this thing.
Nah, this place just gets my ire up.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:36 AM   #13
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Nah, this place just gets my ire up.
Really? After all these years, you should know better.
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:30 AM   #14
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Who said anything about it effecting his job as the HC?
Havent you read they planet much? Haley is struggling with his duties...

Oh and that Pioli is regretting hiring Haley.... Should be front sports news...
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Havent you read they planet much? Haley is struggling with his duties...

Oh and that Pioli is regretting hiring Haley.... Should be front sports news...
I don't know about the latter but the former is most certainly spot-on.
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