Chiefs Pass interference call on Page - Page 5

Bill Lundberg · 10-05-2009, 08:27 AM

Might be the worst call I've ever seen.

Chiefnj2 · 10-05-2009, 11:31 AM

Shoulder pad to sternum.

blaise · 10-05-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lono

I understand what he's saying, I just don't agree with it. Football is a sport that not anyone can play. I am not so much talking about QB's, I am talking about all these hits on wide outs being called. If a guy is trying to catch the ball, you better try to knock him into next week so he doesn't catch it. If it is a blatant head to head you can tell. That's fine call it, but if there is any doubt let them play football.

That was sort of my problem with the call. The refs conferred for a minute it looked like; you'd think they could get it right at that point. And I agree that if you're a safety you have to make that hit if you want to stay on the roster.

ForeverChiefs58 · 10-05-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yay, you've been watching football for 40 years.

Big ****ing deal.

When I was a senior in high school in the mid-80's, I could bench press 225, run a 4.7 forty and was the second fastest guy on a State Championship football team in Kansas. I weighed 160 pounds (and wasn't all that good at football, quite honestly).

Guys today are 275 pounds, bench 600 and run a 4.7 forty. The collisions can be catastrophic, leading to brain injury, early death, etc. If you think that letting men of that size and speed collide into unprotected men at will, I'm sorry, but you're ****ing moron.

To compare your days in PeeWee football with the NFL is funny at best. You think guys liked to try and tackle Jim Brown? You think it was fun getting hit by guys like Ronnie Lot? This is such a silly argument. While I will say a lot of players are bigger and faster now, they also have sooo many more rules like no clotheslines leading with helmet etc. etc. I don't think there is a big comparrison myself. That is just MY opinion.

Agent V · 10-05-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

I wonder if you are the rudest prick asshole on this board? Must be because you are on a message board, since I know you would never have the balls to talk that way to someone in person. Seriously, why to you treat people like that? Did you not get enough attention as a kid? Skip the name calling there nancy before daddy has to put you over his knee.

Jeeze, man. You called Carson Palmer a ****ing pussy in your last post. Would you say that to HIS face? Dane's just showing how much football has changed in terms of strength and speed, and he's right.

ForeverChiefs58 · 10-05-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

Jeeze, man. You called Carson Palmer a ****ing pussy in your last post. Would you say that to HIS face? Dane's just showing how much football has changed in terms of strength and speed, and he's right.

I had no idea I was talking to Carson Palmer. Reread the posts

ForeverChiefs58 · 10-05-2009, 11:45 AM

He doesn't have to insult and call other posters names all the time.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

To compare your days in PeeWee football with the NFL is funny at best.

Do you have reading comprehension issues? I played football for a 6A State Championship Football team. Dozens of guys played at the major college level, even more at the junior college level. One of my former head coaches is a superstar coach in Kansas City. One of my high school friends was the head coach of a D-I university. As a matter of fact, I personally know PLENTY of guys who played in the NFL, outside of the guys I used to know that played for the Chiefs.

Your insults carry no water, Champ.

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

You think guys liked to try and tackle Jim Brown? You think it was fun getting hit by guys like Ronnie Lot? This is such a silly argument. While I will say a lot of players are bigger and faster now, they also have sooo many more rules like no clotheslines leading with helmet etc. etc. I don't think there is a big comparrison myself. That is just MY opinion.

Hey Grandpa, this isn't 1960. Jim Brown wouldn't be the biggest, strongest running back on the block in 2009. That doesn't mean he wouldn't be successful but JFC, this isn't an era where guys sell insurance six months out of the year and go to training camp to get in shape.

These guys LIVE football, 24-7, 365 days a year. The have nutritionists, take supplements (legal and illegal) and quite honestly, are FREAKS of ****ing NATURE.

If tactics like clotheslining were allowed, we'd see deaths each week. How would YOU like to have a 6'6, 275 pound man running 40 miles an hour at you, unprotected? Do you think you'd survive?

Get a grip on reality.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

He doesn't have to insult and call other posters names all the time.

Yeah, it's really cool when you call a 6'5, 235 Pro-Bowl QB a pussy, isn't it?

ForeverChiefs58 · 10-05-2009, 11:53 AM

I am not just talking QB's, the thread title is about a hit on a WR. What are they supposed to do, let the guy catch it and score a TD? I mean, come on. A DB HAS to make that jarring hit to seperate the ball from the player in the NFL.
Example: Rodney Harrison will be in the HOF, he wouldn't even be able to play with these rules. He would have to have played a totally different kind of game.

ForeverChiefs58 · 10-05-2009, 11:56 AM

Like Ray Lewis said after the game, maybe they should just put buzzers on the guys, and if you hit them and the buzzer goes off...Come on this is the NFL, there is supposed to be jarring hits, thats why they make the big bucks!

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-05-2009, 11:56 AM

When Page hit him, had he wrapped him up and took him to the ground, It would have been a great tackle. In full speed it looked violent. Slow-mo shows it was a clean hit. Sometimes I wish plays like this were open to Challenge. Later in the game, Carr or Leggitt threw a forearm to the helmet of a Giants receiver(can't remember who now)but it wasn't called. The refs are very inconsistent.

ForeverChiefs58 · 10-05-2009, 11:56 AM

well, that and talent

**Buehler445** · 10-05-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Who cares what you want?

Did you read the SI roundtable with 5 NFL QB's earlier this year? Carson Palmer predicts that someone will be killed. Seriously.

When you've got 300 pound guys who bench press 600 pounds that run 4.7 40's (basically like 35 miles an hour) hitting QB's in the motion of throwing, it only makes sense to protect those guys.

This isn't 1960, when guys weren't nearly as big, strong and fast as they are in 2009. They didn't have nutritionists, supplements and weight training. They didn't train 365 days a year. Many had full time jobs in the off-season.

The league MUST protect these guys. To think otherwise is uninformed and tenuous at best.

Dane, while I agree with you in principle, I do believe it is important to draw a distinction between a QB in the pocket, and a WR that has the ball in his possession.

FWIW, from my view, it looked like Page hit his shoulder.

Back to the QB thing, I think it is important to protect these guys, especially their knees, the APPLICATION of the rule should be reasonable. That call on Suggs almost whiff of Brady is flat out ridiculous.

PunkinDrublic · 10-05-2009, 11:58 AM

It's really frustrating when you see our guy do what safeties are supposed to do which is seperate the reciever from the ball. The play was textbook but the offical inserted himself into the game when he didn't need to. Multiple replays shows Page hit with his shoulder. It's human nature for a player to letup somewhat on the next play because he might get another flag so why wouldn't the Giants throw the next play in the middle for a TD, if they know that if it's incomplete they have a good shot at getting an illegal contact call.

ForeverChiefs58 · 10-05-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

When Page hit him, had he wrapped him up and took him to the ground, It would have been a great tackle. In full speed it looked violent. Slow-mo shows it was a clean hit. Sometimes I wish plays like this were open to Challenge. Later in the game, Carr or Leggitt threw a forearm to the helmet of a Giants receiver(can't remember who now)but it wasn't called. The refs are very inconsistent.

Carr's hit was to the head and I could see if THAT would have been called, but if Page doesn't make that hit, that play, EVERYONE is calling for him to follow Pollard out of here.

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10-05-2009, 11:53 AM	#69
ForeverChiefs58 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $665326	I am not just talking QB's, the thread title is about a hit on a WR. What are they supposed to do, let the guy catch it and score a TD? I mean, come on. A DB HAS to make that jarring hit to seperate the ball from the player in the NFL. Example: Rodney Harrison will be in the HOF, he wouldn't even be able to play with these rules. He would have to have played a totally different kind of game.
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ForeverChiefs58 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $665326	Like Ray Lewis said after the game, maybe they should just put buzzers on the guys, and if you hit them and the buzzer goes off...Come on this is the NFL, there is supposed to be jarring hits, thats why they make the big bucks!
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BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	When Page hit him, had he wrapped him up and took him to the ground, It would have been a great tackle. In full speed it looked violent. Slow-mo shows it was a clean hit. Sometimes I wish plays like this were open to Challenge. Later in the game, Carr or Leggitt threw a forearm to the helmet of a Giants receiver(can't remember who now)but it wasn't called. The refs are very inconsistent.
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10-05-2009, 11:58 AM	#74
PunkinDrublic Stay down bitch! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Plano, TX Casino cash: $4340670	It's really frustrating when you see our guy do what safeties are supposed to do which is seperate the reciever from the ball. The play was textbook but the offical inserted himself into the game when he didn't need to. Multiple replays shows Page hit with his shoulder. It's human nature for a player to letup somewhat on the next play because he might get another flag so why wouldn't the Giants throw the next play in the middle for a TD, if they know that if it's incomplete they have a good shot at getting an illegal contact call. __________________ Disappointing my parents since 1976
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