Pass interference call on Page

[Bill Lundberg]

Might be the worst call I've ever seen.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Dane, while I agree with you in principle, I do believe it is important to draw a distinction between a QB in the pocket, and a WR that has the ball in his possession.

FWIW, from my view, it looked like Page hit his shoulder.

Back to the QB thing, I think it is important to protect these guys, especially their knees, the APPLICATION of the rule should be reasonable. That call on Suggs almost whiff of Brady is flat out ridiculous.

No, I'm with you. But I specifically cited a round table interview with five NFL QB's in SI recently that included Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, Carson Palmer, Tony Romo and someone who escapes me. Palmer said that he believes that because these guys are getting strong and faster each year, the end result will be a death on the field.

FC58 then stated that "Carson Palmer is a pussy", then my rant that followed.

In typical Chiefsplanet fashion, the topic had been derided.

[ForeverChiefs58]

The refs are just WAY too biased for certain teams they seem to favor.

[Lono]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Who cares what you want?

Did you read the SI roundtable with 5 NFL QB's earlier this year? Carson Palmer predicts that someone will be killed. Seriously.

When you've got 300 pound guys who bench press 600 pounds that run 4.7 40's (basically like 35 miles an hour) hitting QB's in the motion of throwing, it only makes sense to protect those guys.

This isn't 1960, when guys weren't nearly as big, strong and fast as they are in 2009. They didn't have nutritionists, supplements and weight training. They didn't train 365 days a year. Many had full time jobs in the off-season.

The league MUST protect these guys. To think otherwise is uninformed and tenuous at best.

Ok I have to disagree with guys running 35 and 40 mph.

Let's say a guy runs a 4.5 forty which is pretty common in the NFL.

40/4.5 =8.89 yrd/sec

40/1760(yards to miles conversion) / 4.5/3600 (sec conversion)

.0227/.00125= 18.16 mph

So a guy running a 4.5 forty would be 18.16 mph.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Lono

Ok I have to disagree with guys running 35 and 40 mph.

Let's say a guy runs a 4.5 forty which is pretty common in the NFL.

40/4.5 =8.89 yrd/sec

40/1760(yards to miles conversion) / 4.5/3600 (sec conversion)

.0227/.00125= 18.16 mph

So a guy running a 4.5 forty would be 18.16 mph.

Okay, I was just throwing a number out there.

Thanks for actually doing the math.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Dane, while I agree with some of what those QB's are saying ie hitting below the knees or on the head, tackle football is going to have guys rushing the passer and they are not playing two hand touch. To say a QB is going to die on the field because guys are getting bigger and faster is a little far fetched. QB's are getting bigger too and faster. But I am talking about hits in general, from DB, LB's or even that stupid call against the offense for running into the defense and then him flop on the ground like it was a basketball game.

[Tiger's Fan]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Shoulder pad to sternum.

This is exactly what it was. No helmet involved, and it certainly wasn't too high. Nothing more than a terrible call, and a momentum changer at that.

[Lono]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Okay, I was just throwing a number out there.

Thanks for actually doing the math.

Haha i actually really didn't do that to prove you wrong, it just got me wondering how fast they really were.

[-King-]

Yeah dane is spot on here. Defensive players have gotten bigger, faster and stronger since 40 years ago. All that while offensive players are still in the same mold they were. Its not like they haven't gotten bigger also. Its not they aren't stronger or faster. They are the same 160lb offensive players from 4 decades ago. Only defensive players have changed hence the rules. /sarcasm

Hell most qbs are taller and some are even taller than runningbacks. Should you not be able to hit rbs then? I swear this league is pussifying itself each year. If a safety can't hit a wr and dislodge the ball, then what can he do? Should he wait for the wr to catch the ball and give an ok sign before he hits the wr? That hit was pure shoulder to shoulder. Not only was it not helmet to helmet, but I don't even think their helmets so much as grazed each other.
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[Coach]

Ray Lewis was right on his interview yesterday. I'm tired of all these pansy rules destroying football. I understand there must be protection done for the players, but come on, this is getting absurd.

Let them play football. If the NFL is so damned concerned about the violence, then just ban the damn game all together. In fact, let's just change the damn game to either two-touch or flag football.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Lono

Haha i actually really didn't do that to prove you wrong, it just got me wondering how fast they really were.

It's cool, Dude!

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58

Dane, while I agree with some of what those QB's are saying ie hitting below the knees or on the head, tackle football is going to have guys rushing the passer and they are not playing two hand touch. To say a QB is going to die on the field because guys are getting bigger and faster is a little far fetched. QB's are getting bigger too and faster. But I am talking about hits in general, from DB, LB's or even that stupid call against the offense for running into the defense and then him flop on the ground like it was a basketball game.

I watch a ton of football each and every Sunday, whether it's at home with the Sunday Ticket or at sports bars. I rarely see guys faking it like in basketball. I agree, BTW. I'm a big basketball fan, especially a Lakers fan, and the flopping there that goes on is disgusting.

But the bottom line is this: Bad calls happen every single Sunday to nearly every single team. Good teams overcome bad calls, bad teams don't.

If that call sent the Chiefs on a downward spiral, then I'd say that collectively, they have a defeatist attitude and loser's mentality.

One bad call by the refs shouldn't upset 45 guys and a coaching staff to the point of self-destruction.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

But the bottom line is this: Bad calls happen every single Sunday to nearly every single team. Good teams overcome bad calls, bad teams don't.

There are instances where a single bad call affects the outcome of the game. Yesterday wasn't one of them.

[ForeverChiefs58]

They pretty much got even with the no call hit from Carr really

[ForeverChiefs58]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

There are instances where a single bad call affects the outcome of the game. Yesterday wasn't one of them.

Right after that call I got a sick feeling, and thought, "I hope the chiefs don't let up now and the giants score the very next play..."

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yay, you've been watching football for 40 years.

Big ****ing deal.

When I was a senior in high school in the mid-80's, I could bench press 225, run a 4.7 forty and was the second fastest guy on a State Championship football team in Kansas. I weighed 160 pounds (and wasn't all that good at football, quite honestly).

Guys today are 275 pounds, bench 600 and run a 4.7 forty. The collisions can be catastrophic, leading to brain injury, early death, etc. If you think that letting men of that size and speed collide into unprotected men at will, I'm sorry, but you're ****ing moron.

So you were a small football player? What does that have anything to do with the NFL players at that time who were also roughly the same size as they are today?