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Old 10-06-2009, 02:22 PM   #1
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I don't think we are near as much a cluster**** as we were against Oakland, Carolina and Tennessee last year.

The first-quarter season stats from 2008 are being skewed big time by that game against Denver.

I do not expect this team to get beat 34-0 at any point this year. Nor do I expect a 34-10 loss at home.

Does anyone remember 7 carries, 2 yards for LJ last year in Carolina? I haven't forgotten. I do not expect to see that level if incompetency from this staff.
Matt Cassel. 14-18 for 90 yards passing. Hmmm, yeah no incompetence on this staff.
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Old 10-06-2009, 02:25 PM   #2
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Matt Cassel. 14-18 for 90 yards passing. Hmmm, yeah no incompetence on this staff.
If Dick Curl were still the QB coach, we'd never hear the end of it from Reerun.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:43 PM   #3
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The fact that people even care about last years teams and anything Herm Edwards has done here is ****ing stupid....

This is a total new beginning... God so many people love fail and embrace this stupid shit like reeruns in a room full of gum balls...
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:45 PM   #4
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The fact that people even care about last years teams and anything Herm Edwards has done here is ****ing stupid....

This is a total new beginning... God so many people love fail and embrace this stupid shit like reeruns in a room full of gum balls...
No one cares.

OTW is using last season simply to show what a cluster**** this year is. It's far from praise of any kind.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:48 PM   #5
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No one cares.

OTW is using last season simply to show what a cluster**** this year is. It's far from praise of any kind.
When you take a cluster**** and try to right the ship? WTF do you think is going to happen....

Not even Jesus himself can un**** this team after what we just went through.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:04 PM   #6
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The fact that people even care about last years teams and anything Herm Edwards has done here is ****ing stupid....

This is a total new beginning... God so many people love fail and embrace this stupid shit like reeruns in a room full of gum balls...
I don't think there are many people longing for the days of Herman ****ing Edwards.

They are simply wondering if the people in charge now are any better.
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:06 PM   #7
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I don't think there are many people longing for the days of Herman ****ing Edwards.

They are simply wondering if the people in charge now are any better.
A ****ing drunk monkey is better....

Shit we played 3 teams that have a legimate shot of a deep playoff run... Tell me that last years coached team would fair ANY better this year with Herm? Please?

Hell the Raiders put up 300 ****ing yards rushing last year at arrowhead. 300 ****ING YARDS....
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Here's some improvement that the thread starter didn't recognize.

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KC leads the league in kickoff coverage (17.7 avg.), punt coverage (2.5 avg) and net punting average (44.5). Nice work, special teams.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:26 AM   #9
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Here's some improvement that the thread starter didn't recognize.
Because I don't have access to those stats.

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If true, great.

However, I'd say that has more to do with the guys kicking than the coverage unit, but I've been really pleased with Succop so far. Definitely one of the rare bright spots this season.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:49 AM   #10
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This is fugging worthless to compare. Seriously, there are some many variables in play, it's meaningless.
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Old 10-06-2009, 09:59 AM   #11
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This is fugging worthless to compare. Seriously, there are some many variables in play, it's meaningless.
It's NOT meaningless.

99% of the people here thought this franchise was going the wrong direction under Herm, even though he had drafted young players and was working to overhaul the roster.

In the past two years alone, he drafted a stud WR, two young defensive end/tackles (Turk & Tank), a franchise left tackle, a stud DB in Flowers (and a damn good prospect in Carr), a supposed run stuffing DT in Dorsey and more.

Half those guys were sent packing and the rest were converted to a defense in which they weren't drafted to play. What Pioli's done is completely erase the past two drafts - threw them out the window.

Bowe's taken a step backwards, as has Albert. Pollard's gone. Turk's gone. Tank's a part-time player. Dorsey's playing out of position.

So, now that we're on this path, you'd think we'd be improved, right? WRONG. We're worse across the board. In throwing players in the trash in order to convert to a completely different defense, Pioli set the Chiefs back at least one year if not two. And he did nothing to compliment this team in free-agency.

In my opinion, it's an absolutely valid way to evaluate and quantify progress.

And so far, there's been NONE.

It's been all for naught.
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Old 10-06-2009, 11:36 AM   #12
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It's NOT meaningless.

99% of the people here thought this franchise was going the wrong direction under Herm, even though he had drafted young players and was working to overhaul the roster.

In the past two years alone, he drafted a stud WR, two young defensive end/tackles (Turk & Tank), a franchise left tackle, a stud DB in Flowers (and a damn good prospect in Carr), a supposed run stuffing DT in Dorsey and more.

Half those guys were sent packing and the rest were converted to a defense in which they weren't drafted to play. What Pioli's done is completely erase the past two drafts - threw them out the window.

Bowe's taken a step backwards, as has Albert. Pollard's gone. Turk's gone. Tank's a part-time player. Dorsey's playing out of position.

So, now that we're on this path, you'd think we'd be improved, right? WRONG. We're worse across the board. In throwing players in the trash in order to convert to a completely different defense, Pioli set the Chiefs back at least one year if not two. And he did nothing to compliment this team in free-agency.

In my opinion, it's an absolutely valid way to evaluate and quantify progress.

And so far, there's been NONE.

It's been all for naught.
That happens all the time all over the NFL not just in KC.. Many times a new GM and HC come in and want their players, team, etc.....

Yes the last 3 years were all for naught. We knew as they were happening any respectable GM who comes in is going to clean house and start over...

Its sucks, its going to take some time, but if we can endure 3 years of Herm, then we can endure Pioli and Haley finally trying to build a championship team in KC, first time in a long time.
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That happens all the time all over the NFL not just in KC.. Many times a new GM and HC come in and want their players, team, etc.....
If I'm Clark Hunt interviewing Scott Pioli and Pioli tells me "Hey, my philosophy on defense is the 3-4. So the first order of business is to dump all of your high draft picks from the past two years in order to implement my defense", I say "Thanks for you time" and I'm hiring someone else.

It was absolutely FOOLISH to spend THREE of the top draft picks in 2008 & 2009 on FIVE TECH PLAYERS. The Chiefs should have drafted Sanchez, Mauluga, offensive lineman and skill players in this past draft.

Instead, we're ****ED for at least two more years because the amount of holes on both defense and offense cannot be filled with even adequate players in the draft and free agency.

Tom Dimitroff got that part right.

Scott Pioli did not.

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Yes the last 3 years were all for naught. We knew as they were happening any respectable GM who comes in is going to clean house and start over...
Bullshit. Bull-****ING-Shit.

The last three years DID NOT have to be meaning less. The Chiefs made the right decisions in the draft. A pass rushing defensive end opposite Jared Allen. A stud WR to help in the passing game. Two 4-3 DT/DE's. A franchise LT, a college super-stud DT, a stud CB, a very good CB (Carr), etc.

Pioli is the guy that said "**** this. We're going 3-4" and basically negated the past few years. Hali can't play OLB in a 3-4. Dorsey's not a 5 Tech. Brandon Albert has taken a HUGE step backwards. Dwayne Bowe looks like ****ing Derrick Alexander out there. Flowers and Carr are fine but BFD? Tyson Jackson should have NEVER been drafted with the #3 overall pick.

Pioli IGNORED this shit offensive line in free-agency and the draft and he continues to ignore it.

I'm not even TALKING about Herm or Peterson: This season's failures lie directly in the lap of one man: Scott Pioli.

PERIOD.
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It was absolutely FOOLISH to spend THREE of the top draft picks in 2008 & 2009 on FIVE TECH PLAYERS. The Chiefs should have drafted Sanchez, Mauluga, offensive lineman and skill players in this past draft.
Let's keep it real here - the above is an opinion. Backed by considerable evidence it would seem, but an opinion nonetheless.

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The last three years DID NOT have to be meaning less. The Chiefs made the right decisions in the draft.
There's not much evidence to support this. We've cut several of those draft picks and they sat out there with nobody wanting to pick them up. The guys that did get picked up immediately were guys like Turk McBride, who immediately went to play for Gunther.
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If I'm Clark Hunt interviewing Scott Pioli and Pioli tells me "Hey, my philosophy on defense is the 3-4. So the first order of business is to dump all of your high draft picks from the past two years in order to implement my defense", I say "Thanks for you time" and I'm hiring someone else.

It was absolutely FOOLISH to spend THREE of the top draft picks in 2008 & 2009 on FIVE TECH PLAYERS. The Chiefs should have drafted Sanchez, Mauluga, offensive lineman and skill players in this past draft.

Instead, we're ****ED for at least two more years because the amount of holes on both defense and offense cannot be filled with even adequate players in the draft and free agency.

Tom Dimitroff got that part right.

Scott Pioli did not.



Bullshit. Bull-****ING-Shit.

The last three years DID NOT have to be meaning less. The Chiefs made the right decisions in the draft. A pass rushing defensive end opposite Jared Allen. A stud WR to help in the passing game. Two 4-3 DT/DE's. A franchise LT, a college super-stud DT, a stud CB, a very good CB (Carr), etc.

Pioli is the guy that said "**** this. We're going 3-4" and basically negated the past few years. Hali can't play OLB in a 3-4. Dorsey's not a 5 Tech. Brandon Albert has taken a HUGE step backwards. Dwayne Bowe looks like ****ing Derrick Alexander out there. Flowers and Carr are fine but BFD? Tyson Jackson should have NEVER been drafted with the #3 overall pick.

Pioli IGNORED this shit offensive line in free-agency and the draft and he continues to ignore it.

I'm not even TALKING about Herm or Peterson: This season's failures lie directly in the lap of one man: Scott Pioli.

PERIOD.
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