Chiefs What were your impressions of the game?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

Also you can toss in, reporters are lazy when it comes to bad teams they don't care about and its easier just to parrot what one guy says then to do the work yourself.

So, you're of the opinion that everyone just "ran with" the ego thing? No one else other than Whitlock has experienced it firsthand? It's just all a fabrication, so much so that LJ joined in the foray?

I'm sorry, I find that extremely hard to believe. Man, a lot of you guys sure are jaded when it comes to sports reporting.

No offense.

Tiger's Fan · 10-05-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, you're of the opinion that everyone just "ran with" the ego thing? No one else other than Whitlock has experienced it firsthand? It's just all a fabrication, so much so that LJ joined in the foray?

I'm sorry, I find that extremely hard to believe. Man, a lot of you guys sure are jaded when it comes to sports reporting.

No offense.

What would a bunch of local hacks have to be bitter about by being shut out of the loop at 1 Arrowhead?

The fact of the matter is, Nick Athan has practically as much access to the team as anyone else in legit media. These guys (Hayley/Pioli) will be roasted daily until they win something. And I'm sure they don't give a ****.

Reading anything into it equates to believeing in anything they had to say when they were sucking Carls cock off.

As far as LJs concerned, no one knows what context he's even using the phrase, without guessing. The game got kinda chippy yesterday. My guess is it was a reference to the Giants talking shit, which they can. Or, he's pissed about not being given the rock in the redzone, when he's had enough failure of his own down there.

Ordinarily, no one gives a damn what LJ has to say. I guess he has his uses.

**morphius** · 10-05-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, you're of the opinion that everyone just "ran with" the ego thing? No one else other than Whitlock has experienced it firsthand? It's just all a fabrication, so much so that LJ joined in the foray?

I'm sorry, I find that extremely hard to believe. Man, a lot of you guys sure are jaded when it comes to sports reporting.

No offense.

I'm not jumping to the same conclusion as you and whitlock did, but I wouldn't put it past SI to just take what the local media says as fact. Plus all of the good coaches have been called Egotistical, including Coughlin. So I don't even know that I'd hold ego against them. Hell, the players and media both wanted Coughlin's head till he actually won. Not to mention LJ's comments, and his twitter page, normally make almost no sense at all.

Are there other comments from Grunhard other than him talking about the QB "fight" between Pioli and Haley?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 04:16 PM

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I'm not jumping to the same conclusion as you and whitlock did, but I wouldn't put it past SI to just take what the local media says as fact. Plus all of the good coaches have been called Egotistical, including Coughlin. So I don't even know that I'd hold ego against them. Hell, the players and media both wanted Coughlin's head till he actually won. Not to mention LJ's comments, and his twitter page, normally make almost no sense at all.

I understand that ego is necessary to some extent, moreso if you're responsible for hundreds of millions of dollars and a city of 2 million. I get that.

What I don't get is for the ego to be so overbearing that it causes a negative reaction by all of those involved.

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Are there other comments from Grunhard other than him talking about the QB "fight" between Pioli and Haley?

That, I don't know firsthand. I've only read about it here on the 'Planet.

keg in kc · 10-05-2009, 04:27 PM

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What I don't get is for the ego to be so overbearing that it causes a negative reaction by all of those involved.

Let's just say this isn't all smoke and there's actually fire. Would you care if it pissed LJ off and he was gone next year? How about Brian Waters? Is there anybody on this roster that's so good, so important, that their thinking the owner, GM or head coach is so egotistical that they don't want to be a part of it actually matters in any way, shape or form. What's the point Whitlock is trying to make? That this team full of mediocre players is upset because they're not being pampered anymore? Really?

And it's friggin' LJ. Who doesn't he complain about?

They're trying to turn the entire culture of the franchise around. Some players aren't going to like it, especially the ones who feel entitled. They're going to break some eggs. And losing is only going to exacerbate the grumbling. Get used to it.

wild1 · 10-05-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Let's just say this isn't all smoke and there's actually fire. Would you care if it pissed LJ off and he was gone next year? How about Brian Waters? Is there anybody on this roster that's so good, so important, that their thinking the owner, GM or head coach is so egotistical that they don't want to be a part of it actually matters in any way, shape or form. What's the point Whitlock is trying to make? That this team full of mediocre players is upset because they're not being pampered anymore? Really?

So long as they don't alienate people like Cassel, Flowers, Jackson, perhaps Albert and Dorsey, the people we'd really like to be in our long term plans, who cares?

Waters and LJ can go sit on a cactus for all I care.

htismaqe · 10-05-2009, 04:05 PM

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Man, a lot of you guys sure are jaded when it comes to sports reporting.

You're in Cali. You should check in sometime. You might actually understand why everybody in KC is so jaded. The media is AWFUL.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 04:11 PM

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You're in Cali. You should check in sometime. You might actually understand why everybody in KC is so jaded. The media is AWFUL.

Yeah, I alluded to that earlier. I'm 2,000 miles away and no longer live in that "bubble" of sports. I listened to Keitzman and other sports talk guys in the 90's and early part of 2000 but eventually stopped listening because it was the same old thing every day.

Awful.

htismaqe · 10-05-2009, 04:18 PM

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Yeah, I alluded to that earlier. I'm 2,000 miles away and no longer live in that "bubble" of sports. I listened to Keitzman and other sports talk guys in the 90's and early part of 2000 but eventually stopped listening because it was the same old thing every day.

Awful.

It hasn't changed.

However, there is something important about the local media's influence that doesn't often get mentioned.

Soren, for instance, has a daily segment where he visits like 5 cities around the country and talks to a local guy there about the teams in that city. Those guys are radio or newspaper guys about 90% of the time.

People that sit and listen to 810 every day very rarely realize that OTHER CITIES are doing the SAME THING, and they guys they're having on are guys like PETRO.

In fact, just last week I heard Clinkscale talking about going on a radio station in New York to break down the Giants game. Danny freaking Clinkscale.

And I've also heard them laughing about stuff that they've said that ends up on Sportscenter.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-05-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It hasn't changed.

However, there is something important about the local media's influence that doesn't often get mentioned.

Soren, for instance, has a daily segment where he visits like 5 cities around the country and talks to a local guy there about the teams in that city. Those guys are radio or newspaper guys about 90% of the time.

People that sit and listen to 810 every day very rarely realize that OTHER CITIES are doing the SAME THING, and they guys they're having on are guys like PETRO.

In fact, just last week I heard Clinkscale talking about going on a radio station in New York to break down the Giants game. Danny freaking Clinkscale.

And I've also heard them laughing about stuff that they've said that ends up on Sportscenter.

Yeouch.

I wonder if it's because the radio stations in each city are owned by the same media conglomerates and it's just a way to kill time?

Well, thanks for reinforcing my decision not to listen to sports talk radio. It sounds boring and redundant just from your description!

keg in kc · 10-05-2009, 04:29 PM

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Yeouch.

I wonder if it's because the radio stations in each city are owned by the same media conglomerates and it's just a way to kill time?

Well, thanks for reinforcing my decision not to listen to sports talk radio. It sounds boring and redundant just from your description!

Not only is it boring and redundant, it's absolutely, unequivocally useless. All of the talk, all of the analysis has absolutely no bearing on anything. Ultimately only the games and their outcomes mean anything; the rest of the bullshit is just fluff.

Much like this board. And yet I keep posting. Year after year.

*shoots self in head*

**morphius** · 10-05-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Not only is it boring and redundant, it's absolutely, unequivocally useless. All of the talk, all of the analysis has absolutely no bearing on anything. Ultimately only the games and their outcomes mean anything; the rest of the bullshit is just fluff.

Much like this board. And yet I keep posting. Year after year.

*shoots self in head*

My favorite part of the shows are the callers, sometimes I think we have a few idiots around here, but the guys who call in, wow! I think Dane's head might explode.