Chiefs Why? Just Why, why, why... - Page 4

wild1 · 10-06-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

It's almost like bitching about the Glenn Dorsey pick. What other choice did Peterson have? If he didn't take Dorsey, he would have been shot to death leaving the Arrowhead parking lot that night.

I think Dorsey is getting better. He's benefiting from the new regime.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-06-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wild1

I think Dorsey is getting better. He's benefiting from the new regime.

I agree with you. I think we have to get some real line coaches and a better coordinator before we see any signs of the players true abilities.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-06-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I agree with you. I think we have to get some real line coaches and a better coordinator before we see any signs of the players true abilities.

Yep. I hoping they only kept Krumrie because their options were limited since Haley was a late hire.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-06-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

It's almost like bitching about the Glenn Dorsey pick. What other choice did Peterson have? If he didn't take Dorsey, he would have been shot to death leaving the Arrowhead parking lot that night.

I don't blame him for drafting Dorsey, either. His draft history is pretty shitty otherwise.

SDChiefs · 10-06-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Do people complain about the Jared Allen trade? Who cares.

Why do people say it's Peterson's fault? I can't understand the blame towards Peterson. He had no choice but to trade him.

Jared Allen didn't want to be here. Period. Can anyone blame him? Nope. This is sh*t franchise. He wanted to leave and Peterson had no other chocie but to trade him. It's as simple as that. And unfortunately he is a hard guy to replace. But Peterson got the best value he could get in return. It's the Chiefs fault for drafting sh*t. If you want something to complain about, look no further then the draft.

He asked for a trade because he wanted a long term contract. One that CP would not give him. Therefore, it is, in fact Petersons fault. Had he signed him to a 6 year deal. Allen would still be here. We would never have drafted Jackson and we wouldn't have had the piss poor pass rush that we have for the last 2 years.

Micjones · 10-06-2009, 05:00 PM

Peterson always kept the wrong player.

We kept Johnson and let one of the best defensive ends in football hop a plane to Minnesota.
Just like before when we kept Eric Warfield and let Donnie Edwards defect for San Diego.

It hurts to see Allen tearing shit up in Minnesota.
Peterson had it out for the guy and didn't want him here.
He wanted Larry Johnson. We all know how well that worked out...

But then again, hindsight is always 20/20.

DJJasonp · 10-06-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

Peterson always kept the wrong player.

We kept Johnson and let one of the best defensive ends in football hop a plane to Minnesota.
Just like before when we kept Eric Warfield and let Donnie Edwards defect for San Diego.

It hurts to see Allen tearing shit up in Minnesota.
Peterson had it out for the guy and didn't want him here.
He wanted Larry Johnson. We all know how well that worked out...

But then again, hindsight is always 20/20.

THIS! It was Carl's ego that kept LJ in KC....and shipped Allen to Minnesota. LJ was Carl's draft pick....and even though all of the historical stats about running backs coming off of a 400-plus carry season never being the same again were staring Carl in the face....he still sent a premiere pass rusher packing his bags....and handed a malcontent, diaper-wearing, 400-plus carry RB....a ton of dough.

Yeah...it had nothing to do with Carl! Right.

Marcellus · 10-06-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

THIS! It was Carl's ego that kept LJ in KC....and shipped Allen to Minnesota. LJ was Carl's draft pick....and even though all of the historical stats about running backs coming off of a 400-plus carry season never being the same again were staring Carl in the face....he still sent a premiere pass rusher packing his bags....and handed a malcontent, diaper-wearing, 400-plus carry RB....a ton of dough.

Yeah...it had nothing to do with Carl! Right.

Because LJ was Carl's boy when he picked him over Vermiel's objections. He hitched his wagon to him right there and wasn't going to let him go regardless.

Talk about GM's with ego issues.

FloridaMan88 · 10-06-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

Do people complain about the Jared Allen trade? Who cares.

Why do people say it's Peterson's fault? I can't understand the blame towards Peterson. He had no choice but to trade him.

Jared Allen didn't want to be here. Period. Can anyone blame him? Nope. This is sh*t franchise. He wanted to leave and Peterson had no other chocie but to trade him. It's as simple as that. And unfortunately he is a hard guy to replace. But Peterson got the best value he could get in return. It's the Chiefs fault for drafting sh*t. If you want something to complain about, look no further then the draft.

The problem with your analysis is that you ignore the reason Allen wanted out of KC... because of how Dictator Carl treated him like shit during the process leading up to negotiating a new contract.

FloridaMan88 · 10-06-2009, 05:14 PM

The bottom line is the Chiefs have traded the likes of Tony Gonzalez and Jared Allen the past two offseasons and have essentially nothing (so far) to show for it. Jared Allen on the defensive line makes Dorsey a better player. Gonzalez makes Cassel a better player.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-06-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

The bottom line is the Chiefs have traded the likes of Tony Gonzalez and Jared Allen the past two offseasons and have essentially nothing (so far) to show for it. Jared Allen on the defensive line makes Dorsey a better player. Gonzalez makes Cassel a better player.

Gonzales made Thigpen a better player. That got us 2 whole wins.

wildcat09 · 10-06-2009, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Gonzales made Thigpen a better player. That got us 2 whole wins.

That looks like 2 more than we will win this year

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-06-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wildcat09

That looks like 2 more than we will win this year

2-14 0-16 suck is suck

wildcat09 · 10-06-2009, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

2-14 0-16 suck is suck

yeah.....your right......

I hate that we suck

Marcellus · 10-06-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

The bottom line is the Chiefs have traded the likes of Tony Gonzalez and Jared Allen the past two offseasons and have essentially nothing (so far) to show for it. Jared Allen on the defensive line makes Dorsey a better player. Gonzalez makes Cassel a better player.

I have to agree with that. And it sucks.

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Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	Peterson always kept the wrong player. We kept Johnson and let one of the best defensive ends in football hop a plane to Minnesota. Just like before when we kept Eric Warfield and let Donnie Edwards defect for San Diego. It hurts to see Allen tearing shit up in Minnesota. Peterson had it out for the guy and didn't want him here. He wanted Larry Johnson. We all know how well that worked out... But then again, hindsight is always 20/20. __________________ It's like when I'm right I'm right, when I'm wrong I could been right, so I'm still right cause I coulda been wrong.
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FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-827094	The bottom line is the Chiefs have traded the likes of Tony Gonzalez and Jared Allen the past two offseasons and have essentially nothing (so far) to show for it. Jared Allen on the defensive line makes Dorsey a better player. Gonzalez makes Cassel a better player.
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