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Old 10-06-2009, 11:33 AM  
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Do people complain about the Jared Allen trade? Who cares.

Why do people say it's Peterson's fault? I can't understand the blame towards Peterson. He had no choice but to trade him.

Jared Allen didn't want to be here. Period. Can anyone blame him? Nope. This is sh*t franchise. He wanted to leave and Peterson had no other chocie but to trade him. It's as simple as that. And unfortunately he is a hard guy to replace. But Peterson got the best value he could get in return. It's the Chiefs fault for drafting sh*t. If you want something to complain about, look no further then the draft.
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Old 10-06-2009, 03:14 PM   #46
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It amazes me how naivete some people are around here.

The Jared Allen deal was on Clark Hunt. If Clark wanted to pay him he woulda been paid.

Dane McLoud seems to be the only one around here who knows WTF is really going on.

As long as Clark **** is the tightass owner he is this team will fail to do anyting. Hell, as of last count they hadn't even hit the minimum payout for this years salary cap.
I can agree with this. I stated before as long as he is the owner, this team will suck it up.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:00 PM   #47
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Peterson always kept the wrong player.

We kept Johnson and let one of the best defensive ends in football hop a plane to Minnesota.
Just like before when we kept Eric Warfield and let Donnie Edwards defect for San Diego.

It hurts to see Allen tearing shit up in Minnesota.
Peterson had it out for the guy and didn't want him here.
He wanted Larry Johnson. We all know how well that worked out...

But then again, hindsight is always 20/20.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:09 PM   #48
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We wouldn't be 0-4 if he was still here. I'd bet somebodies left nut on it.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:12 PM   #49
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Do people complain about the Jared Allen trade? Who cares.

Why do people say it's Peterson's fault? I can't understand the blame towards Peterson. He had no choice but to trade him.

Jared Allen didn't want to be here. Period. Can anyone blame him? Nope. This is sh*t franchise. He wanted to leave and Peterson had no other chocie but to trade him. It's as simple as that. And unfortunately he is a hard guy to replace. But Peterson got the best value he could get in return. It's the Chiefs fault for drafting sh*t. If you want something to complain about, look no further then the draft.
The problem with your analysis is that you ignore the reason Allen wanted out of KC... because of how Dictator Carl treated him like shit during the process leading up to negotiating a new contract.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:14 PM   #50
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The bottom line is the Chiefs have traded the likes of Tony Gonzalez and Jared Allen the past two offseasons and have essentially nothing (so far) to show for it. Jared Allen on the defensive line makes Dorsey a better player. Gonzalez makes Cassel a better player.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:26 PM   #51
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The bottom line is the Chiefs have traded the likes of Tony Gonzalez and Jared Allen the past two offseasons and have essentially nothing (so far) to show for it. Jared Allen on the defensive line makes Dorsey a better player. Gonzalez makes Cassel a better player.
Gonzales made Thigpen a better player. That got us 2 whole wins.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:28 PM   #52
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The bottom line is the Chiefs have traded the likes of Tony Gonzalez and Jared Allen the past two offseasons and have essentially nothing (so far) to show for it. Jared Allen on the defensive line makes Dorsey a better player. Gonzalez makes Cassel a better player.
I have to agree with that. And it sucks.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:31 PM   #53
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I'll wait to pass judgment on Pioli on the Gonzales trade until I see what they do with that pick.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:35 PM   #54
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I'll wait to pass judgment on Pioli on the Gonzales trade until I see what they do with that pick.
A good offensive lineman would be nice.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:46 PM   #55
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Peterson always kept the wrong player.

We kept Johnson and let one of the best defensive ends in football hop a plane to Minnesota.
Just like before when we kept Eric Warfield and let Donnie Edwards defect for San Diego.

It hurts to see Allen tearing shit up in Minnesota.
Peterson had it out for the guy and didn't want him here.
He wanted Larry Johnson. We all know how well that worked out...

But then again, hindsight is always 20/20.
THIS! It was Carl's ego that kept LJ in KC....and shipped Allen to Minnesota. LJ was Carl's draft pick....and even though all of the historical stats about running backs coming off of a 400-plus carry season never being the same again were staring Carl in the face....he still sent a premiere pass rusher packing his bags....and handed a malcontent, diaper-wearing, 400-plus carry RB....a ton of dough.

Yeah...it had nothing to do with Carl! Right.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:50 PM   #56
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THIS! It was Carl's ego that kept LJ in KC....and shipped Allen to Minnesota. LJ was Carl's draft pick....and even though all of the historical stats about running backs coming off of a 400-plus carry season never being the same again were staring Carl in the face....he still sent a premiere pass rusher packing his bags....and handed a malcontent, diaper-wearing, 400-plus carry RB....a ton of dough.

Yeah...it had nothing to do with Carl! Right.
Because LJ was Carl's boy when he picked him over Vermiel's objections. He hitched his wagon to him right there and wasn't going to let him go regardless.

Talk about GM's with ego issues.
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Old 10-06-2009, 06:52 PM   #57
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Old 10-06-2009, 07:42 PM   #58
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many people were defending the trade before and when it happened. if you WANTED him to be traded then you should be castrated. thats why people are still a little bitter
I wanted him traded.
I thought he was immature and would **** up again.
I thought he was going to be gone, it was just a decision of waiting for his contract to run out, or getting something in return.
...and...
I didn't think he was nearly as good as he is.

If I recall, his sack stats were very skewed toward the first halves. Not that it matters, now...but those were my thoughts at the time.
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Old 10-06-2009, 08:51 PM   #59
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Gonzales made Thigpen a better player. That got us 2 whole wins.

That looks like 2 more than we will win this year
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That looks like 2 more than we will win this year
2-14 0-16 suck is suck
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