Chiefs Pioli, Here's your clue for 2010 draft - Page 4

BigChiefFan · 11:33 AM

I've been looking over the film and collecting my notes of the players that should be in the upcoming draft, that we should give serious consideration to help improve the team. If Pioli plays his cards right he could come away with a handful of players that should improve the team by leaps and bounds and be future staples of the team for year's to come.

1st Round-WR Dez Bryant, OSU- Dez Bryant is the rare talent that brings athleticism and an ability to reel in the tough catches. So far, in just a over two seasons(plus the few games this season) he has 147 receptions, 2425 yards, 19 yard avg. reception, 29 TDs, plus 3 more TDs in the return game. Dez is the rare WR talent that comes along once every 5 years. He's the best WR prospect since Calvin Johnson. Our WRs could use a major upgrade and Bryant could go along way into improving the group.

2nd Round-DE/OLBer Sergio Kindle , Texas- Kindle is a sack artist who plays DE at Texas. He's a high motor player, who will be a tweener at the next level, making him a good fit as a 3-4 OLBer and causing his draft stock to fall some for our benefit.

2nd Round-OT Jason Fox Univ. of Miami- Fox is quickly making a name for himself as the Hurricane start to capture a national audience. Fox at 6'6'' 314 lbs. has cemented himself as the anchor to the Hurricane's offensive line.

3rd Round-NT Jeff Owens Georgia-Owens is not a true NT, but at 6'1" 306 lbs. he could probably bulk up some and give us some depth at the position. Owens is on the Bronco Nagurski watch list for top player in the nation. 64 names are submitted. He was once considered a first round prospect until he tore his ACL in the past. He's a sure tackler and strong as an ox, with a reported bench press of 535 lbs. For a 3rd round pick, he's got upside to play a starting role if he can add some mass and stay healthy.

4th round-HB Montario Hardesty-Tennessee. The SECs leading rusher has been one of the few bright spots for the Tennessee offense. Hardesty is all-around back, who can carry, catch, and block. Great value early in the
4th round. Past injury drops his stock to the 2nd day, but he projects as a starter.

5th round-OG John Jerry- Mississippi- J.J. is an outstanding prospect who has helped make Jevan Snead a household name. He's All-Sec, 1st team and at 6'5" 350 lbs., he's got brick wall potential. He also brings versatility because he's played RT, as well. I like his upside.

5th round-C Erik Olsen-Notre Dame- Olsen is a former RG turned Center this year for Weiss' Fighting Irish. He's another on the Lomabardi best O-lineman in the country watchlist. He's considered one of the top 5 Centers in this year's draft and has done a good job on the O-Line since his sophmore year in 2007.

Once again, it's all about value and who can bring some starting potential to the team. I believe everyone of those players would easily make the team, and most likely start. Thoughts?

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by salame

hey I like Dez Bryant just as much as the next guy but he may not even be reinstated and if that's the case he may be there in the 2nd or 3rd anyways

There's no way a team like Pit or NE lets Dez Bryant slide to the 2nd round.

I'd be surprised if he saw #20.

salame · 10-14-2009, 01:00 PM

Pit doesn't need him
NE on the other hand..............
I'm thinking dallas in the first round anyway the Jerry Jones Okie State connection

oh wait I got mixed up he loves arkansas and Oklahoman not okie state

Brock · 10-14-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by salame

hey I like Dez Bryant just as much as the next guy but he may not even be reinstated and if that's the case he may be there in the 2nd or 3rd anyways

No way.

DJ's left nut · 10-14-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by salame

Pit doesn't need him
NE on the other hand..............
I'm thinking dallas in the first round anyway the Jerry Jones Okie State connection

oh wait I got mixed up he loves arkansas and Oklahoman not okie state

Pit absolutely could use him.

Ward's not getting younger and Holmes is still not quite the guy they thought he'd be.

Beyond that, he's going to be by far and away the most talented player on the board at that point and could be had for a fraction of his worth.

The Chiefs might pass on him there (y'know, like taking Tyson Jackson at 3) but an organization with a brain in its head would NEVER let Dez Bryant fall that far.

Brock · 10-14-2009, 01:09 PM

I like your draft. I don't know how realistic it is, but I do like it.

The_Doctor10 · 10-14-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DumbHillbillies

What else do we have to look foward to.

Beating Washington and that brilliant Albert Haynesworth-led defense?

Hoover · 10-14-2009, 01:13 PM

We all agree that that our offensive line sucks so we don't address it until our 4th pick in the draft? I hope we are not that stupid.

Brock · 10-14-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

We all agree that that our offensive line sucks so we don't address it until our 4th pick in the draft? I hope we are not that stupid.

He has them picking at OT in the second rd.

Hoover · 10-14-2009, 01:24 PM

I missed that. My bad.

I'm all for taking an impact playmaker in round one, but after that I think we need to invest in our line. The best place to grab a RT will be at the top of round 2, and we could also have our pick of interior linemen at the bottom of the round.

I would love to add a playmaker LB/DE, but I just don't think we are ready for that piece of the puzzle. We need to build our offensive line and plug and play at LB.

CoMoChief · 10-14-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Who is our Herschel Walker to trade?

Jared Allen............

BigChiefFan · 10-14-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

I missed that. My bad.

I'm all for taking an impact playmaker in round one, but after that I think we need to invest in our line. The best place to grab a RT will be at the top of round 2, and we could also have our pick of interior linemen at the bottom of the round.

I would love to add a playmaker LB/DE, but I just don't think we are ready for that piece of the puzzle. We need to build our offensive line and plug and play at LB.

Jason Fox and J. Jerry would most likely start from day one on this roster. Fox reminds me alot like Bryant McKinnie and Jerry is one of the most underrated Guards in the upcoming draft. He's a steal in the 5th round, but like, most cases some gem O-lineman can be found a little later on draft day.

BigChiefFan · 10-14-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I like your draft. I don't know how realistic it is, but I do like it.

Thanks, man. I appreciate it.

DumbHillbillies · 10-14-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unleash_the_Phury

Beating Washington and that brilliant Albert Haynesworth-led defense?

The potential to go 1-5 just doesn't do it for me.

Jawshco · 10-14-2009, 03:47 PM

I've said it before, but I think we should take RB Ryan Mathews from Fresno, if he's there in the third round. I have very little confidence in our backs, and LJ is showing his age. Mathews will be a steal in the 3rd, and I think he has every down back potential that Charles, Smith and Savage lack.

chiefzilla1501 · 10-14-2009, 04:08 PM

Bryant is an interesting choice, but given his recent behavior, I have a feeling he'll be the second-coming of Michael Crabtree. And much as it would be nice to have a playmaking receiver, how many receivers are actually difference makers? There have been so many pro bowl receivers over the years who have not played for great offenses. I actually think it's one of the lowest impact positions on the field.

I still believe if you want a playmaker, look at the two stud safeties and choose between the two. Pittsburgh's defense looks pretty bad without Polamalu. The Ravens' defense revolves around Ed Reed. In a 3-4 defense, I would argue that a playmaking safety is almost as big of a difference maker (if not moreso) than a real good nose tackle.

10-14-2009, 10:55 AM
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	Pioli, Here's your clue for 2010 draft I've been looking over the film and collecting my notes of the players that should be in the upcoming draft, that we should give serious consideration to help improve the team. If Pioli plays his cards right he could come away with a handful of players that should improve the team by leaps and bounds and be future staples of the team for year's to come. 1st Round-WR Dez Bryant, OSU- Dez Bryant is the rare talent that brings athleticism and an ability to reel in the tough catches. So far, in just a over two seasons(plus the few games this season) he has 147 receptions, 2425 yards, 19 yard avg. reception, 29 TDs, plus 3 more TDs in the return game. Dez is the rare WR talent that comes along once every 5 years. He's the best WR prospect since Calvin Johnson. Our WRs could use a major upgrade and Bryant could go along way into improving the group. 2nd Round-DE/OLBer Sergio Kindle , Texas- Kindle is a sack artist who plays DE at Texas. He's a high motor player, who will be a tweener at the next level, making him a good fit as a 3-4 OLBer and causing his draft stock to fall some for our benefit. 2nd Round-OT Jason Fox Univ. of Miami- Fox is quickly making a name for himself as the Hurricane start to capture a national audience. Fox at 6'6'' 314 lbs. has cemented himself as the anchor to the Hurricane's offensive line. 3rd Round-NT Jeff Owens Georgia-Owens is not a true NT, but at 6'1" 306 lbs. he could probably bulk up some and give us some depth at the position. Owens is on the Bronco Nagurski watch list for top player in the nation. 64 names are submitted. He was once considered a first round prospect until he tore his ACL in the past. He's a sure tackler and strong as an ox, with a reported bench press of 535 lbs. For a 3rd round pick, he's got upside to play a starting role if he can add some mass and stay healthy. 4th round-HB Montario Hardesty-Tennessee. The SECs leading rusher has been one of the few bright spots for the Tennessee offense. Hardesty is all-around back, who can carry, catch, and block. Great value early in the 4th round. Past injury drops his stock to the 2nd day, but he projects as a starter. 5th round-OG John Jerry- Mississippi- J.J. is an outstanding prospect who has helped make Jevan Snead a household name. He's All-Sec, 1st team and at 6'5" 350 lbs., he's got brick wall potential. He also brings versatility because he's played RT, as well. I like his upside. 5th round-C Erik Olsen-Notre Dame- Olsen is a former RG turned Center this year for Weiss' Fighting Irish. He's another on the Lomabardi best O-lineman in the country watchlist. He's considered one of the top 5 Centers in this year's draft and has done a good job on the O-Line since his sophmore year in 2007. Once again, it's all about value and who can bring some starting potential to the team. I believe everyone of those players would easily make the team, and most likely start. Thoughts? Last edited by BigChiefFan; 10-14-2009 at 11:33 AM.. Reason: spelling
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10-14-2009, 01:00 PM	#47
salame Under the Sofa Join Date: Apr 2009 Casino cash: $10010607	Pit doesn't need him NE on the other hand.............. I'm thinking dallas in the first round anyway the Jerry Jones Okie State connection oh wait I got mixed up he loves arkansas and Oklahoman not okie state
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10-14-2009, 01:09 PM	#50
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	I like your draft. I don't know how realistic it is, but I do like it.
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10-14-2009, 01:13 PM	#52
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2161821	We all agree that that our offensive line sucks so we don't address it until our 4th pick in the draft? I hope we are not that stupid.
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10-14-2009, 01:24 PM	#54
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-2161821	I missed that. My bad. I'm all for taking an impact playmaker in round one, but after that I think we need to invest in our line. The best place to grab a RT will be at the top of round 2, and we could also have our pick of interior linemen at the bottom of the round. I would love to add a playmaker LB/DE, but I just don't think we are ready for that piece of the puzzle. We need to build our offensive line and plug and play at LB.
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10-14-2009, 03:47 PM	#59
Jawshco Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clovis, CA Casino cash: $10004925	I've said it before, but I think we should take RB Ryan Mathews from Fresno, if he's there in the third round. I have very little confidence in our backs, and LJ is showing his age. Mathews will be a steal in the 3rd, and I think he has every down back potential that Charles, Smith and Savage lack. Last edited by Jawshco; 10-14-2009 at 04:40 PM.. Reason: I meant 3rd round not 1st
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10-14-2009, 04:08 PM	#60
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1775503	Bryant is an interesting choice, but given his recent behavior, I have a feeling he'll be the second-coming of Michael Crabtree. And much as it would be nice to have a playmaking receiver, how many receivers are actually difference makers? There have been so many pro bowl receivers over the years who have not played for great offenses. I actually think it's one of the lowest impact positions on the field. I still believe if you want a playmaker, look at the two stud safeties and choose between the two. Pittsburgh's defense looks pretty bad without Polamalu. The Ravens' defense revolves around Ed Reed. In a 3-4 defense, I would argue that a playmaking safety is almost as big of a difference maker (if not moreso) than a real good nose tackle.
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