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Old 10-15-2009, 10:29 AM   #1
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I can see Jackson becoming just like another Sims. Get credit for playing on an outstanding defense in college, comes to pros and just looks 'lost', doesnt get it. He's not gonna get fat but he could have the same, or lack thereof, impact of a Sims
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:40 AM   #2
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I can see Jackson becoming just like another Sims. Get credit for playing on an outstanding defense in college, comes to pros and just looks 'lost', doesnt get it. He's not gonna get fat but he could have the same, or lack thereof, impact of a Sims
Yeah, and I can see Jackson being the next great female comic... which is based as much in reality as your vision of him.
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:44 AM   #3
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Yeah, and I can see Jackson being the next great female comic... which is based as much in reality as your vision of him.
oh ok, so you have no response to the fact that he put up underwhelming statistics despite playing for a loaded defense and one of the biggest knocks going into the combine was he "can't rush the passer" AND "lacks good run-awareness".

Let's see can't rush the passer. Check.
Can't stop the run. Check.
Played for LSU. Check. WOOOOHOOOO LETS MAKE HIM OUR #3 PICK BAYBEE!
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:48 AM   #4
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Ok I will come clean and apologize. I was just trying to have some fun but Dane wins I couldn't last 7 days because I am too nice of a guy.

But it was fun.
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:51 AM   #5
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Ok I will come clean and apologize. I was just trying to have some fun but Dane wins I couldn't last 7 days because I am too nice of a guy.

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Old 10-15-2009, 10:48 AM   #6
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oh ok, so you have no response to the fact that he put up underwhelming statistics despite playing for a loaded defense and one of the biggest knocks going into the combine was he "can't rush the passer" AND "lacks good run-awareness".

Let's see can't rush the passer. Check.
Can't stop the run. Check.
Played for LSU. Check. WOOOOHOOOO LETS MAKE HIM OUR #3 PICK BAYBEE!

First, as I stated above... didn't 'love' the pick.

Second, you are going off of scouting reports. Not to sound like a d!ck, but the guys who go off scouting reports either don't watch the players or don't know what they are looking at.

As a Georgia resident, the SEC is a pretty big deal around here. The guy was a very good college player that has a good combination of size and speed. He 'fits' the 3-4. He isn't a good 4-3 end. He would probably be a pretty good under tackle, but I like under tackles to be a little shorter to get better leverage.

Anyways, the point isn't that I am saying he is going to be a 'stud'. The point is to claim that he will be less than that based on some scouting report you read is pretty funny.

And, lot's of guys don't get it five games into their NFL career. Predicting that he will be a Ryan Sims type of bust is silly.
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:51 AM   #7
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First, as I stated above... didn't 'love' the pick.

Second, you are going off of scouting reports. Not to sound like a d!ck, but the guys who go off scouting reports either don't watch the players or don't know what they are looking at.

As a Georgia resident, the SEC is a pretty big deal around here. The guy was a very good college player that has a good combination of size and speed. He 'fits' the 3-4. He isn't a good 4-3 end. He would probably be a pretty good under tackle, but I like under tackles to be a little shorter to get better leverage.

Anyways, the point isn't that I am saying he is going to be a 'stud'. The point is to claim that he will be less than that based on some scouting report you read is pretty funny.

And, lot's of guys don't get it five games into their NFL career. Predicting that he will be a Ryan Sims type of bust is silly.
what it comes down to is, was it a good pick at #3?

the answer is no.
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:54 AM   #8
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what it comes down to is, was it a good pick at #3?

the answer is no.
Any time you can pay a guy 60 million dollars to be a complimentary guy, you've gotta do it.
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Any time you can pay a guy 60 million dollars to be a complimentary guy, you've gotta do it.
I bet a lot of teams would think Richard Seymour is worth 60 million dollars.

I find myself defending a pick I didn't love..... but the reality is that it is only five games in....and the calling of him to be a bust is at the very least, premature.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:18 AM   #10
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Hamas, I like you. You are a class act. Good looking guy too...







You owe me $60 mil.
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what it comes down to is, was it a good pick at #3?

the answer is no.
It wasn't the 'best' pick. But, I don't see a huge problem with it. I think DE in the 3-4 is one of the hardest positions to fill in that defense.

NT is probably a little harder, but I think the Chiefs, mistakenly, thought that Ron Edwards and Tank Tyler could do the job.

I don't think they saw anyone that could be an end.
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