Chiefs Haley changes WR coach - Page 3

LaChapelle · 10-15-2009, 05:25 PM

Haley, not satisfied with receivers, makes coaching change
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Apparently frustrated with a lack of progress from the wide receivers, coach Todd Haley has made another staff change, replacing position coach Dedric Ward with Richie Anderson.

Anderson joined the Chiefs this year as a member of the NFL’s minority coaching fellowship program. A former NFL running back, he helped coach the wide receivers for the Jets in 2006.

Ward is still coaching for the Chiefs, but Anderson was running the receiver drills during the media portion of practice Thursday.

“Coach Haley and everybody involved in the decision making are trying to find a way to get things right,’’ wide receiver Bobby Wade said. “Richie’s been helping out for us. He’s been in our position meetings and at practice anyway. Dedric Ward’s still out there helping. So I think it’s more of a change for the coaches than for us. It’s not a drastic thing for us as players. It has more to do with how (Haley) wanted to see things done.

“But I think everybody is looking for things that are going to help us. Everybody in this locker room has to be open to that.’’

Haley wouldn’t comment even to confirm the move. He did make a general statement about the receivers in his regular daily news conference.

“They definitely made some big plays (in last week’s game against Dallas),’’ Haley said. “The third-and-long catch by Bobby (Wade) . . . where he took a big (shot) and then obviously the fourth-down (touchdown) throw to Dwayne (Bowe) were big plays and plays to build on for those guys and for us.

“Now, there were other plays in that game and in the last couple of games that we had some game-changing plays potentially that haven’t been made. So it’s a work in progress. They need to make plays. That’s their job. They need to do a good job (blocking) in the run game. That’s their job. We just need to be better across the board, and that’s another spot where that holds true.’’

Haley made a change on his offensive staff during the preseason, firing coordinator Chan Gailey and taking over the play-calling responsibilities. Still, the Chiefs have been sluggish offensively. They are 30th among the NFL’s 32 teams in yardage and 24th in scoring.

The play of the receivers has, as Haley indicated, been up and down. Bowe, Wade and Mark Bradley have combined for 42 catches and six touchdowns in the Chiefs’ 0-5 start.

But the top three receivers have also tended to disappear at times. They combined for five catches in a recent game against the Giants.

The receiver situation has been unsettled since the start of training camp. Bowe was demoted for a time because the Chiefs were unhappy with his effort. Starter Devard Darling was lost for the year because of a knee injury suffered during the preseason.

Veterans Amani Toomer and Ashley Lelie were signed during training camp, but neither lasted until the start of the regular season. Wade joined the Chiefs as a free agent after the first regular-season game.

Perhaps Haley believes having a more experienced receivers coach will help. Anderson coached wide receivers for the Jets in 2006 and moved on the next year to the Arizona Cardinals. He was fired four days after being arrested for soliciting a prostitute, but the charge was dropped.

Ward coached wide receivers in 2006 for Missouri State and was an offensive assistant the last two seasons for the Cardinals, but this was his first season as an NFL position coach.

Wade said he was comfortable working with either coach and thought the other receivers felt the same way.

“In my experience, it’s really important to build a rapport with your receivers coach,’’ Wade said. “He needs to understand you as an individual and what you can do on the field and what you might lack as far as skill. Then he needs to give you the best opportunity to play up to your ability.

“So it’s important for every position to have a coach that’s going to be there and going to be consistent.’’

Posted on Thu, Oct. 15, 2009 05:41 PM

milkman · 10-15-2009, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

"Haley changes the playbook", "Haley changes his underwear", "Haley changes this that and the other". How about "Haley changes the losing streak by changing Center and Right Guard" for ****s sake..

What?

Try something that makes sense?

You must be high.

**Easy 6** · 10-15-2009, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

What?

Try something that makes sense?

You must be high.

Makes sense to me...

**Rausch** · 10-15-2009, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Haley?

How about a change on the ****ing defensive line coach? Or a ****ing defensive coordinator?

Why would the defensive coordinator be on the hot seat?

When the defense can play 3 quarters and Haley's offense only plays about 1/2 of one it's hard to throw stones.

**Reaper16** · 10-15-2009, 07:49 PM

To the Arm Floatie!

milkman · 10-15-2009, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

Makes sense to me...

Please read it closely.

I was saying it makes sense.

It was dripping in sarcasm.

Do you need a new meter?

**HemiEd** · 10-15-2009, 07:55 PM

Everything is going to be alright.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-15-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

This actually encourages me. Sounds like Haley isn't going to blindly support a coach if said coach isn't getting the job done. I wouldn't be surprised to see a new OC and DC in here next year once good coaches become available. Clancy better watch his back...

**wazu** · 10-15-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

This franchise is becoming more and more of a ****ing joke as days go by.

No it isn't.

**HemiEd** · 10-15-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I have questioned that since he was retained. I truly believe Clark told them that they had to keep him. Maybe this off season, that will change.

**Rausch** · 10-15-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

No it isn't.

This is true.

After 0 you start encountering imaginary numbers...

**The Bad Guy** · 10-15-2009, 08:01 PM

Our receivers suck, and Haley made a change.

I'm not thrilled that a RB is now coaching the WRs, but oh well.

At least he is making changes. This gives me hope Pender****head is gone after this year.

soundmind · 10-15-2009, 08:01 PM

If Haley chooses any one particular piece of this franchise to monitor in critical detail, I'd hope like hell it was the wideouts.

Next season we'll have a new OC, a new DC, and I wouldn't at all be surprised if Haley keeps this piece for himself come 2010. I kind of hope he does. Like a former coach who shall remain nameless, who lacked every single character trait otherwise, I think he has a discernible strength in one particular area and we are fools not to focus his efforts there (as well as overall team management).

Timing sucks, but so does the team. I'm not at all bothered by it, but I wonder how much good it does have a FB teaching them how to better their game....? I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see us incorporate some kind of coaching hire around our bye week possibly too...our timetable for change simply does not mirror the rest of the league AND IT SHOULDN'T. We're far worse off, and major change will be necessary over the next few seasons. So long as it's not a carousel of shit like Oakland, no worries here, clocks ticking but, meh....

Coach · 10-15-2009, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Why would the defensive coordinator be on the hot seat?

When the defense can play 3 quarters and Haley's offense only plays about 1/2 of one it's hard to throw stones.

Yet, when the game really mattered the most, they fell apart. It's because of Clancy's idioticy of calling a goddamned prevent defense that isn't preventing a single goddamn thing.

It's pretty damned refreshing seeing the goddamned corners playing 8 to 10 yards off of the goddamned line of scrimmage, that they just continue to let the goddamned receivers run freely.

****ING JAM THE MOTHER****ER and then run with the receivers.

Another issue I have with him is that already through 5 games, the Chiefs, as a whole team, only recorded six goddamned sacks.

SIX!

**Rausch** · 10-15-2009, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Yet, when the game really mattered the most, they fell apart. It's because of Clancy's idioticy of calling a goddamned prevent defense that isn't preventing a single goddamn thing.

It's pretty damned refreshing seeing the goddamned corners playing 8 to 10 yards off of the goddamned line of scrimmage, that they just continue to let the goddamned receivers run freely.

****ING JAM THE MOTHER****ER and then run with the receivers.

Another issue I have with him is that already through 5 games, the Chiefs, as a whole team, only recorded six goddamned sacks.

SIX!

FTR I think the ONLY coach who has deserved a pink slip this year is our DC.

Gailey consistently overachieved while our new DC has had his defense step on it's d**k every time it's been forced to make a stand. Who gives a $#it about 3rd and 3 in the first quarter?

No one. It's early, there's time for adjustments. 4 minutes left in the 4th, the other team has the ball, YOU STOP THEM OR LOSE.

We still can't do that...

chiefzilla1501 · 10-15-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by soundmind

If Haley chooses any one particular piece of this franchise to monitor in critical detail, I'd hope like hell it was the wideouts.

Next season we'll have a new OC, a new DC, and I wouldn't at all be surprised if Haley keeps this piece for himself come 2010. I kind of hope he does. Like a former coach who shall remain nameless, who lacked every single character trait otherwise, I think he has a discernible strength in one particular area and we are fools not to focus his efforts there (as well as overall team management).

Timing sucks, but so does the team. I'm not at all bothered by it, but I wonder how much good it does have a FB teaching them how to better their game....? I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see us incorporate some kind of coaching hire around our bye week possibly too...our timetable for change simply does not mirror the rest of the league AND IT SHOULDN'T. We're far worse off, and major change will be necessary over the next few seasons. So long as it's not a carousel of shit like Oakland, no worries here, clocks ticking but, meh....

I think people are making way too much of the fact that he played fullback in the NFL.

Todd Haley didn't play receiver in the NFL either. Bellichick played tight end--that doesn't mean he's unqualified to coach defense.

Anderson has coached WRs before. It's not like this is his first gig. I don't know what to make of this decision. But it's WAY too soon to be jumping off cliffs.

10-15-2009, 05:25 PM
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Haley changes WR coach Haley, not satisfied with receivers, makes coaching change By ADAM TEICHER The Kansas City Star Apparently frustrated with a lack of progress from the wide receivers, coach Todd Haley has made another staff change, replacing position coach Dedric Ward with Richie Anderson. Anderson joined the Chiefs this year as a member of the NFL’s minority coaching fellowship program. A former NFL running back, he helped coach the wide receivers for the Jets in 2006. Ward is still coaching for the Chiefs, but Anderson was running the receiver drills during the media portion of practice Thursday. “Coach Haley and everybody involved in the decision making are trying to find a way to get things right,’’ wide receiver Bobby Wade said. “Richie’s been helping out for us. He’s been in our position meetings and at practice anyway. Dedric Ward’s still out there helping. So I think it’s more of a change for the coaches than for us. It’s not a drastic thing for us as players. It has more to do with how (Haley) wanted to see things done. “But I think everybody is looking for things that are going to help us. Everybody in this locker room has to be open to that.’’ Haley wouldn’t comment even to confirm the move. He did make a general statement about the receivers in his regular daily news conference. “They definitely made some big plays (in last week’s game against Dallas),’’ Haley said. “The third-and-long catch by Bobby (Wade) . . . where he took a big (shot) and then obviously the fourth-down (touchdown) throw to Dwayne (Bowe) were big plays and plays to build on for those guys and for us. “Now, there were other plays in that game and in the last couple of games that we had some game-changing plays potentially that haven’t been made. So it’s a work in progress. They need to make plays. That’s their job. They need to do a good job (blocking) in the run game. That’s their job. We just need to be better across the board, and that’s another spot where that holds true.’’ Haley made a change on his offensive staff during the preseason, firing coordinator Chan Gailey and taking over the play-calling responsibilities. Still, the Chiefs have been sluggish offensively. They are 30th among the NFL’s 32 teams in yardage and 24th in scoring. The play of the receivers has, as Haley indicated, been up and down. Bowe, Wade and Mark Bradley have combined for 42 catches and six touchdowns in the Chiefs’ 0-5 start. But the top three receivers have also tended to disappear at times. They combined for five catches in a recent game against the Giants. The receiver situation has been unsettled since the start of training camp. Bowe was demoted for a time because the Chiefs were unhappy with his effort. Starter Devard Darling was lost for the year because of a knee injury suffered during the preseason. Veterans Amani Toomer and Ashley Lelie were signed during training camp, but neither lasted until the start of the regular season. Wade joined the Chiefs as a free agent after the first regular-season game. Perhaps Haley believes having a more experienced receivers coach will help. Anderson coached wide receivers for the Jets in 2006 and moved on the next year to the Arizona Cardinals. He was fired four days after being arrested for soliciting a prostitute, but the charge was dropped. Ward coached wide receivers in 2006 for Missouri State and was an offensive assistant the last two seasons for the Cardinals, but this was his first season as an NFL position coach. Wade said he was comfortable working with either coach and thought the other receivers felt the same way. “In my experience, it’s really important to build a rapport with your receivers coach,’’ Wade said. “He needs to understand you as an individual and what you can do on the field and what you might lack as far as skill. Then he needs to give you the best opportunity to play up to your ability. “So it’s important for every position to have a coach that’s going to be there and going to be consistent.’’ Posted on Thu, Oct. 15, 2009 05:41 PM
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