Football Sanchez? - Page 40

Hootie · 10-18-2009, 04:45 PM

Man...sure glad we didn't draft him...he looks terrible.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 10-18-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Looks like trading Bledsoe was no more of a cap hit for the Patriots than if he was actually on the roster in 2002.

http://www.cbssports.com/b/page/pres...585362,00.html

Interestingly enough, they got a 1st rounder for Bledsoe from Buffalo.

Did the patriots not take a risk on Brady by trading Bledsoe? They gave him the keys to the franchise after he proved his "career backup" type ass was worth a shit... If Cassel gets hurt... and Brodie leads this team to the Super Bowl and goes on to a HOF career with the chiefs... that doesn't change that fact that Brodie was considered a career backup

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-18-2009, 10:32 PM

Where'd "Marcellus" go?

Faced with facts, he disappears.

How quaint.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-18-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie

Did the patriots not take a risk on Brady by trading Bledsoe? They gave him the keys to the franchise after he proved his "career backup" type ass was worth a shit... If Cassel gets hurt... and Brodie leads this team to the Super Bowl and goes on to a HOF career with the chiefs... that doesn't change that fact that Brodie was considered a career backup

The Patriots didn't consider him to be a career backup.

And furthermore, their risk was minimal after Brady's performance in the playoffs and Super Bowl.

Especially the game winning drive.

splatbass · 10-18-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Really?

So, I'd like you to point out where I've been "wrong" in this thread.

I'm waiting.

You have given opinions. That you got from a book. That doesn't make them wrong, but it doesn't make them right either. It still just makes them opinions.

And I was speaking in general terms. When people disagree with you you sling insults and neg rep. I have some of those to prove it.

**DeezNutz** · 10-18-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie

Did the patriots not take a risk on Brady by trading Bledsoe? They gave him the keys to the franchise after he proved his "career backup" type ass was worth a shit... If Cassel gets hurt... and Brodie leads this team to the Super Bowl and goes on to a HOF career with the chiefs... that doesn't change that fact that Brodie was considered a career backup

Brodie? A career backup?

He was essentially the ship that sank Herm, who, very foolishly, tied himself to Croyle's broke-ass body.

Saccopoo · 10-18-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

How many 7th round QBs have won a Super Bowl? Go look at the stats of Super Bowl winning QBs, its posted on here.

SB I: Bart Starr; 17th round
SB II: Bart Starr; 17th round
SBIII: Joe Namath; 1st round
SBIV: Len Dawson; 1st round
SBV: Johnny Unitas; 9th round
SBVI: Roger Staubach; 10th round
SBVII: Bob Greise; 1st round
SBVIII: Bob Greise; 1st round
SBIX: Terry Bradshaw; 1st round
SBX: Terry Bradshaw; 1st round
SBXI: Ken Stabler; 2nd round
SBXII: Roger Staubach; 10th round
SBXIII: Terry Bradshaw; 1st round
SBXIV: Terry Bradshaw; 1st round
SBXV: Jim Plunkett; 1st round
SBXVI: Joe Montana; 3rd round
SBXVII: Joe Theismann; 4th round
XVIII: Jim Plunkett; 1st round
XIX: Joe Montana; 3rd round
XX: Jim McMahon; 1st round
XXI: Phil Simms; 1st round
XXII: Doug Williams; 1st round
XXIII: Joe Montana; 3rd round
XXIV: Joe Montana; 3rd round
XXV: Jeff Hostetler; 3rd round
XXVI: Mark Rypien; 6th round
XXVII: Troy Aikman; 1st round
XXVIII: Troy Aikman; 1st round
XXIX: Steve Young; 1st round
XXX: Troy Aikman; 1st round
XXXI: Brett Favre; 2nd round
XXXII: John Elway; 1st round
XXXIII: John Elway; 1st round
XXXIV: Kurt Warner; Undrafted
XXXV: Trent Dilfer; 1st round
XXXVI: Tom Brady; 6th round
XXXVII: Brad Johnson; 9th round
XXXVIII: Tom Brady; 6th round
XXXIX: Tom Brady; 6th round
XL: Ben Rothlisberger; 1st round
XLI: Peyton Manning; 1st round
XLII: Eli Manning; 1st round

So, in theory, no, no 7th round quarterback has won the Super Bowl. However, we've got a 17th rounder, a 10th rounder, a couple of 9th rounders, some 6th rounders, and even one that was completely undrafted.

I don't think that the round that a QB was picked is at all indicative of their capabilities, desire, maturity, etc., which elevates them to Super Bowl level.

Sure, you know that there are some good ones in round one. But there are also just as many that go complete busto. Maybe more actually.

So, basically, I think that you trying to say that just because Cassel was a 7th round pick and because of that singularly, he'll never win a Super Bowl is total bull.

chiefs1111 · 10-18-2009, 10:35 PM

I can't believe anyone could think Bledsoe got all 103 Million dollars of that deal. He probably thinks Haynesworth will see all 100 million of his contract to

Marcellus · 10-18-2009, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If you'd read the article I posted from Jay Glazer, you'd have your answer.

The "extension" was extremely Patriot-friendly, in the event they needed to, or wanted to trade him.

Drew Bledsoe was NEVER going to see anywhere near $103M.

I will not argue that the contract worked out in the end because Brady worked out but why give him that contract if you know Brady is going to be the guy?

According to the article big bonuses kicked in in year 2 of the contract a year before it was stated Brady was going to be the guy. Fortunately Bledsoe got hurt early.

It was smart ****ing work as far as contracts go but to say it was all done knowing Brady was going to be the man is pure hindsight BS.

What happened was Bledsoe got hurt, Brady won games and they realized they were sitting pretty.

**DeezNutz** · 10-18-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

You have given opinions. That you got from a book. That doesn't make them wrong, but it doesn't make them right either. It still just makes them opinions.

And I was speaking in general terms. When people disagree with you you sling insults and neg rep. I have some of those to prove it.

The "opinions" from the book represent the work of investigative journalism. Is it argumentative, yes, but it's a researched, thorough source.

Not like someone is simply tossing shit against the wall...

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-18-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

You have given opinions. That you got from a book. That doesn't make them wrong, but it doesn't make them right either. It still just makes them opinions.

And I was speaking in general terms. When people disagree with you you sling insults and neg rep. I have some of those to prove it.

WHAT?

The writer was EMBEDDED in the Patriots for 3 years.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-18-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

You have given opinions. That you got from a book. That doesn't make them wrong, but it doesn't make them right either. It still just makes them opinions.

And I was speaking in general terms. When people disagree with you you sling insults and neg rep. I have some of those to prove it.

Dude, you're saying that the guy that wrote that book, who was embedded inside the franchise for 3 years is making this shit up?

Your hatred for Dane is making you flush all common sense.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 10-18-2009, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Patriots didn't consider him to be a career backup.

And furthermore, their risk was minimal after Brady's performance in the playoffs and Super Bowl.

Especially the game winning drive.

when exactly were they gonna put him in the starting lineup then?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 10-18-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

WHAT?

The writer was EMBEDDED in the Patriots for 3 years.

I don't give a shit. Of course he's gonna say those things about Brady, though.

Titty Meat · 10-18-2009, 10:37 PM

Theres alot of pages to read whats the argument here? since Cassel is a 7th round pick he wont win a super bowl?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-18-2009, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I will not argue that the contract worked out in the end because Brady worked out but why give him that contract if you know Brady is going to be the guy?

According to the article big bonuses kicked in in year 2 of the contract a year before it was stated Brady was going to be the guy. Fortunately Bledsoe got hurt early.

It was smart ****ing work as far as contracts go but to say it was all done knowing Brady was going to be the man is pure hindsight BS.

What happened was Bledsoe got hurt, Brady won games and they realized they were sitting pretty.

Hey Dude,

I'm no Patriots fan. I'M not the person making the claims. It was written by an investigative reporter. I just paraphrased.

But for FFS, it's ridiculous for you to make allegations when they're totally and completely uninformed.

It makes you look like you're arguing just for the sake of arguing and paints you as petty and foolish.

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