Chiefs Florio: Haley threatened to trade Bowe during Redskins game - Page 27

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-19-2009, 01:37 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...r-dwayne-bowe/

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Trade threat turned the light on for Dwayne Bowe
Posted by Mike Florio on October 19, 2009 3:05 PM ET

As pointed out in the Chiefs-Redskins portion our Morning Aftermath, Kansas City receiver Dwayne Bowe caught six passes for 109 yards. It was his best output of the season.

Bowe's performance came at a time when rumors are rampant that he (and pretty much any other Chiefs player not named "Matt Cassel") is available as the trade deadline looms.

So was he motivated by the rumors? As it turns out, no.

Bowe was motivated by a specific threat, from coach Todd Haley.

Per a league source, Haley tore into Bowe early in Sunday's win over the Redskins, urging Bowe to pick up his game and threatening to trade Bowe if he didn't.

Though some might have seen it as a chance to get over the wall and head to a contending team, the exchange seemed to light a fire under Bowe.

So we suppose it would be fitting if the performance prompts a team like the Dolphins or Ravens to make the Chiefs an offer for Bowe that G.M. Scott Pioli accepts.

WTF?

ChiefsCountry · 10-19-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

I don't give a **** what he's done w/o BB.

He has taken 2 different franchises to the bowl, won twice, and had two other franchises within a game of going. What you wrote was some of the most pretentious, ridiculous shit ever plinked out on a keyboard. More amazing, was that somebody else agreed.

Your criticism of Parcells is nothing more than a steaming pile of bullshit.

Both franchises he took to the Super Bowl, Belichick was with him. Both of his Super Bowl wins, Belichick was with him. When he took the Jets to the AFC Championship Game, Bellichick was with him. His best two coaching years without Belichick was 10-6 in 1994 and 2006. The 7 years when Belichick wasnt on his staff, his average record was 7-9.

Hammock Parties · 10-19-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Lunch-box players?

Please explain.

He's probably perpetuating the myth that the 90s Chiefs were just a bunch of blue-collar guys + Derrick Thomas...

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-19-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

He's probably perpetuating the myth that the 90s Chiefs were just a bunch of blue-collar guys + Derrick Thomas...

Thanks, but I was waiting for his explanation.

**DeezNutz** · 10-19-2009, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Lunch-box players?

Please explain.

I like my chances with 53 Tamba Halis.

ChiefsCountry · 10-19-2009, 10:30 PM

Here is Parcells and Belichick's coaching record:

1983-1985 Belichick was Parcells' linebacker coach in New York
1985-1990 Belichick was Parcells' D Coordinator in New York
1996 Belichick was Parcells' Assitant Head Coach in New England
1997-1999 Belichick was Parcells' Assitant Head Coach in New York Jets

Pacells's Playoff Wins
1984 1-1
1985 1-1
1986 3-0 Super Bowl Champs
1989 0-1
1990 3-0 Super Bowl Champs
1996 2-1 AFC Champions
1998 1-1 AFC Championship Game Runner Up

Parcells Years Making the Playoffs without Belichick
1994 Lost to Cleveland in the Wildcard Playoffs (guess who the head coach for the Browns was)
2003 Lost to Carolina in the Wildcard Playoffs
2006 Lost to Seattle in the Wildcard Playoffs

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...es/ParcBi0.htm

smittysbar · 10-19-2009, 10:57 PM

Parcells was still the head coach and ran the team, who cares if BB was on HIS staff.

ChiefsCountry · 10-19-2009, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

Parcells was still the head coach and ran the team, who cares if BB was on HIS staff.

It proves Parcells was a below average coach without Belichick.

smittysbar · 10-19-2009, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

It proves Parcells was a below average coach without Belichick.

No, it proves he had better teams in that period. I am not saying they weren't good together, but to say he ain't shit without him is ridicuolus. Most of the FB world disagrees with your belief also, but to each his own.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-19-2009, 11:51 PM

When a Bill Parcells team w/o Belichick wins a playoff game, wake me.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-19-2009, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

No, it proves he had better teams in that period. I am not saying they weren't good together, but to say he ain't shit without him is ridicuolus. Most of the FB world disagrees with your belief also, but to each his own.

Your supposition is incorrect.

Belichick won playoff games and Super Bowls without Parcells.

Parcells has not won playoff games or Super Bowls without Belichick.

End of story.

philfree · 10-19-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Your supposition is incorrect.

Belichick won playoff games and Super Bowls without Parcells.

Parcells has not won playoff games or Super Bowls without Belichick.

End of story.

Yeah because Belichick drafted a 3-4 DE in the 1st round at #6.

PhilFree

ChiefsCountry · 10-20-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Yeah because Belichick drafted a 3-4 DE in the 1st round at #6.

PhilFree

He was a 4-3 DT when they drafted him. New England didnt switch over to 3-4 until a few years later.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-20-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Yeah because Belichick drafted a 3-4 DE in the 1st round at #6.

PhilFree

So, you're implying that the Chiefs have a Super Bowl team in 2009?

It's easy to draft for need when your roster is filled with Super Bowl players.

philfree · 10-20-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, you're implying that the Chiefs have a Super Bowl team in 2009?
It's easy to draft for need when your roster is filled with Super Bowl players.

No I was just jacking with you with that post.

PhilFree

philfree · 10-20-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

He was a 4-3 DT when they drafted him. New England didnt switch over to 3-4 until a few years later.

Jackson can play a 4-3 DT. Wow they are a like! Hey maybe the Chiefs will go back 4-3 in a year or so and Jackson will become a HOF 4-3 DT? Probably not!

PhilFree

10-19-2009, 10:30 PM	#395
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1691248	Here is Parcells and Belichick's coaching record: 1983-1985 Belichick was Parcells' linebacker coach in New York 1985-1990 Belichick was Parcells' D Coordinator in New York 1996 Belichick was Parcells' Assitant Head Coach in New England 1997-1999 Belichick was Parcells' Assitant Head Coach in New York Jets Pacells's Playoff Wins 1984 1-1 1985 1-1 1986 3-0 Super Bowl Champs 1989 0-1 1990 3-0 Super Bowl Champs 1996 2-1 AFC Champions 1998 1-1 AFC Championship Game Runner Up Parcells Years Making the Playoffs without Belichick 1994 Lost to Cleveland in the Wildcard Playoffs (guess who the head coach for the Browns was) 2003 Lost to Carolina in the Wildcard Playoffs 2006 Lost to Seattle in the Wildcard Playoffs http://www.pro-football-reference.co...es/ParcBi0.htm
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