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Old 10-28-2009, 04:43 PM   #1
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My eye-foot coordination is fine, thanks. You saying soccer is a track meet told me everything I need to know, dude.
That you have no logical reason as to how a soccer player is more talented then a football player. Just because you say so. We should take your word for it. "They have to put a spin on a ball." So do football players. "They have to run and kick at the same time." Uhh. So do football players. They have to not touch it with their hands? Ok, so? Football players have to be good with their hands too.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:28 PM   #2
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That you have no logical reason as to how a soccer player is more talented then a football player. Just because you say so. We should take your word for it. "They have to put a spin on a ball." So do football players. "They have to run and kick at the same time." Uhh. So do football players. They have to not touch it with their hands? Ok, so? Football players have to be good with their hands too.
When did I ever say soccer takes more talent, you nincompoop? I was saying the opposite about ALL sports, even NASCAR, which takes more driving skills, better reaction time and extreme physical condition that you can even start to comprehend. What I WAS saying is that soccer takes enormous amount of talent and skill while you were saying it's a track meet because all it involves is running.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:37 PM   #3
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When did I ever say soccer takes more talent, you nincompoop? I was saying the opposite about ALL sports, even NASCAR, which takes more driving skills, better reaction time and extreme physical condition that you can even start to comprehend. What I WAS saying is that soccer takes enormous amount of talent and skill while you were saying it's a track meet because all it involves is running.
Zack did and you jumped on the bandwagon talking crap to me when I was arguing with him that they didn't. Im saying its a track meet, you idiot, because all they do is run and kick the F***ING ball. What else do they do? Nothing. Their sole purpose in the game is to run to the ball and kick it. They don't have to catch. They don't have to throw. Its not difficult to kick a freakin ball. Thats why when youre 3 they start you out with KICKBALL. Its essentially soccer with baseball rules. Kids aren't good enough to hit a small ball so they make it easier for them.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:44 PM   #4
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Zack did and you jumped on the bandwagon talking crap to me when I was arguing with him that they didn't. Im saying its a track meet, you idiot, because all they do is run and kick the F***ING ball. What else do they do? Nothing. Their sole purpose in the game is to run to the ball and kick it. They don't have to catch. They don't have to throw. Its not difficult to kick a freakin ball. Thats why when youre 3 they start you out with KICKBALL. Its essentially soccer with baseball rules. Kids aren't good enough to hit a small ball so they make it easier for them.
Of course it's easy to kick a ball, just like it's easy to throw a baseball or a rock. Kicking it with skill requires a lot more than catching a f***ing football OR anything for that matter, though. Controlling the ball on the run takes a lot more skill than running with a football in your hands. Receiving a cross and not letting the ball bounce off you BUT controlling it instead takes a lot more skill than running into a running back to bring him down. Am I saying that pro football players are not freaks of nature? No, because they most definitely are. But you saying "ALL IT TAKES IS RUNNING AND KICKING THE BALL" when you talk about soccer, makes you sound quite reeruned to be honest with you.

And comapring kick ball to soccer is just... I'm mean serioulsy, we're done.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:48 PM   #5
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Of course it's easy to kick a ball, just like it's easy to throw a baseball or a rock. Kicking it with skill requires a lot more than catching a f***ing football OR anything for that matter, though. Controlling the ball on the run takes a lot more skill than running with a football in your hands. Receiving a cross and not letting the ball bounce off you BUT controlling it instead takes a lot more skill than running into a running back to bring him down. Am I saying that pro football players are not freaks of nature? No, because they most definitely are. But you saying "ALL IT TAKES IS RUNNING AND KICKING THE BALL" when you talk about soccer, makes you sound quite reeruned to be honest with you.

And comapring kick ball to soccer is just... I'm mean serioulsy, we're done.
Youre an idiot of epic proportion. Soccer may have been hard for you. But most naturally talented people who play multiple sports would argue with you. I have played every sport. Most of them in a competitive league. Others recreationally and find soccer not only boring. But not that difficult. Hitting a ball 3 inches or so in diameter coming at you at 100 mph=To kicking a ball thats a foot in diameter IYO? Youre a fucktard
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:53 PM   #6
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Youre an idiot of epic proportion. Soccer may have been hard for you. But most naturally talented people who play multiple sports would argue with you. I have played every sport. Most of them in a competitive league. Others recreationally and find soccer not only boring. But not that difficult. Hitting a ball 3 inches or so in diameter coming at you at 100 mph=To kicking a ball thats a foot in diameter IYO? Youre a fucktard
I just think you have a misconception of what's considered being "good" at soccer. But yeah, I agree, it's a lot harder to hit 95mph ball with a bat than anything in soccer, no argument there. But I was talking more about football to you, though.
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Old 10-28-2009, 05:57 PM   #7
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I just think you have a misconception of what's considered being "good" at soccer. But yeah, I agree, it's a lot harder to hit 95mph ball with a bat than anything in soccer, no argument there. But I was talking more about football to you, though.
What I am gathering from you is that anything you can't do, or have trouble doing, other people that do it are talented. I don't believe that to be the case. I can't eat 40 hot dogs in one sitting. But I don't believe the person who can, does so because of talent. In NASCAR they drive fast, but they do so in a circle. No more talent involved then what anyone of us have. Just most of us don't have the money to put together a pit crew and expensive car and do it. Or the desire to do so.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:40 PM   #8
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Youre an idiot of epic proportion. Soccer may have been hard for you. But most naturally talented people who play multiple sports would argue with you. I have played every sport. Most of them in a competitive league. Others recreationally and find soccer not only boring. But not that difficult. Hitting a ball 3 inches or so in diameter coming at you at 100 mph=To kicking a ball thats a foot in diameter IYO? Youre a fucktard
Well I guess its your lucky Day!

Since Soccer is so easy you should have no problem signing a Multi-million dollar contract with one of the teams in the English premier league.

Here are some of the salaries of the premier league players. Lucky for you the owners of these teams are not as smart as you, and have not figured out that Soccer is so easy!

These are yearly numbers BTW:

Rank Name Team Pay
1. David Beckham Real Madrid $37.4 million
2. Ronaldo Real Madrid $25.3
3. Zinedine Zidane Real Madrid 16.8
4. Christian Vieiri Inter Milan $15.5
5. Alessandro Del Piero Juventus $12.3
6. Frank Lampard Chelsea $12.1
7. Raul Gonzalez Real Madrid $12
8. Thierry Henry Arsenal $11.9
9. John Terry Chelsea $11.1
10. Luis Figo Real Madrid $11.0
11. Ruud van Nistelrooy Manchester United $10.9
12. Ronaldinho Barcelona $10.6
13. Oliver Kahn Bayern Munich $10.4
14. Roy Keane Manchester United $10.2
15. Patrick Vieira Arsenal $10.1
16. Michael Owen Real Madrid $9.7
17. Francesco Totti AS Roma $9.6
18. Sol Campbell Arsenal $9.4
19. Michael Ballack Bayern Munich $8.8
20. Rio Ferdinand Manchester United $8.3


I highly recommend that you play a couple of years in the premier league and make 3 to 5 million pounds a year ($6-$10 million per year) not including endorsements, it is a really smart thing to do, and it doesn't require any special skills:



Back to reality.............


I can hit a baseball even if it is only 3 inches wide, you can kick a soccer ball as well but neither of us can compete against the skilled athletes in their sport.

kicking a soccer ball from a standstill is easy, but try to kick a ball that is crossed to you at up to 60 mph while you are running at a full sprint, and being shoved by an equally fast defender, and then remember you have to place your shot to beat the goalie, you cant just hit it anywhere- - good luck with that!

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Here's the issue:

I think most Americans see soccer as MLS. Eurosoccer is a different beast altogether as I learned during the 06 World Cup in Italy - yes they year they won. It's just totally different.

Beforehand, I hated - no, loathed - soccer. Couldn't understand why you'd want to watch or play such a "sport". Not so anymore.


I'm with Zach. And, yes, for those wondering, a big reason soccer isn't big over here is because of the attention span of Americans. Sorry, but true.
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When did I ever say soccer takes more talent, you nincompoop? I was saying the opposite about ALL sports, even NASCAR, which takes more driving skills, better reaction time and extreme physical condition that you can even start to comprehend. What I WAS saying is that soccer takes enormous amount of talent and skill while you were saying it's a track meet because all it involves is running.
So if your argument is, professional soccer players are better at kicking the ball then I would suspect that you are right. Talented at kicking the ball. Sure. Have a lot of stamina. Most definately. Extremely talented athletes? Not so much.
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When did I ever say soccer takes more talent, you nincompoop? I was saying the opposite about ALL sports, even NASCAR, which takes more driving skills, better reaction time and extreme physical condition that you can even start to comprehend. What I WAS saying is that soccer takes enormous amount of talent and skill while you were saying it's a track meet because all it involves is running.
Youre joking right? They drive in a freakin circle. If there is an accident they do caution laps. Drive in Southern California. It may not be as fast but you need quick reaction times to avoid the millions of idiots on the road who shouldn't even have their license. If you were to say INDY car or Formula one. I would have agreed with you. But NASCAR?
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Youre joking right? They drive in a freakin circle. If there is an accident they do caution laps. Drive in Southern California. It may not be as fast but you need quick reaction times to avoid the millions of idiots on the road who shouldn't even have their license. If you were to say INDY car or Formula one. I would have agreed with you. But NASCAR?
Do you really want to go into this? Formula 1 drivers are the most skilled drivers in the world, yes. But saying NASCAR takes no skill is utterly stupid. Formula 1 never reaches the speeds of NASCAR, I want to see you take any NASCAR turn at 195mph, lol. Actually, scratch that, you're stupid, but I don't wish death upon you.
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Do you really want to go into this? Formula 1 drivers are the most skilled drivers in the world, yes. But saying NASCAR takes no skill is utterly stupid. Formula 1 never reaches the speeds of NASCAR, I want to see you take any NASCAR turn at 195mph, lol. Actually, scratch that, you're stupid, but I don't wish death upon you.
Formula 1 never reaches the speeds of NASCAR. Nascar averages 160 around those turns you are talking about and get up to 195 on the straightaways. Formula 1 is routinely over 200 mph on street courses. Youre so stupid youre probably doing a guy and believing him when he tells you its not ghey.
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Yes, they do. And they out-turn and out-brake them, too.
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Yes, they do. And they out-turn and out-brake them, too.
I just watched the Japanese Gran Prix on SPEED a few weeks ago and they hit something like 310kph on that straight, which is what, something like 190mph? The non-hairpin turns were like around 140-180kph. Obviously F1 cars are much faster and designed specifically for turning, but NASCAR is constantly faster - the drivers don't experience as many G's, but they ARE always going crazy fast and then there are the walls they have to deal with...
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