Chiefs Bill Maas: Cassel = Grbac - Page 2

T-post Tom · 11-16-2009, 11:32 PM

Said it today on 610. Said that Cassel is not a "general" on the field; not a leader of men. Maas said while he's tall and has a strong arm (looks the part), he doesn't have the personality or mental makeup to be a leader or a great qb. His only hope is to be surrounded by talent and not get in the way of that talent. Grbac.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-17-2009, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Wow. Dumbest thing Maas has ever said.

Gotta' agree. That comparison is so far off the mark it isn't even funny.

Grbac had an arm.

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-17-2009, 12:14 AM

Maas has been saying this since the NY Giants game.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-17-2009, 12:18 AM

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Maas has been saying this since the NY Giants game.

I think Cassel's gonna' be timid, shredded beef by the time KC has a line that can perform at even 1/2 effectiveness of our old "all-star" line.

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-17-2009, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

I think Cassel's gonna' be timid, shredded beef by the time KC has a line that can perform at even 1/2 effectiveness of our old "all-star" line.

I said this before Cassel isn't mentally/emotionally equipped for the job a franchise QB he gets rattled too easily and is a hot head. Most great QBs have a naturally calm personality, and Cassel has admitted he doesn't possess that trait.

ChiefsCountry · 11-17-2009, 12:27 AM

Where was the KC media in February when Pioli made the dumbest trade of his tenure?

**wazu** · 11-17-2009, 12:29 AM

Maas is usually pretty good, but he's forcing it here. All signs I've seen point to Cassel being much more level-headed and generally self-confident than Grbac. Grbac was a weekly distraction. Coaches and other players were always having to talk him up. "I can't throw the ball and catch it, too" is something you would never, ever hear Cassel say.

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-17-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Where was the KC media in February when Pioli made the dumbest trade of his tenure?

I just hope he can admit he was wrong next year when Cassel falls on his face with new toys to play with.

**wazu** · 11-17-2009, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Where was the KC media in February when Pioli made the dumbest trade of his tenure?

Maas was probably still in prison.

Hammock Parties · 11-17-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I said this before Cassel isn't mentally/emotionally equipped for the job a franchise QB he gets rattled too easily and is a hot head.

You say some really ****ing dumb things but this takes the cake.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-17-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I said this before Cassel isn't mentally/emotionally equipped for the job a franchise QB he gets rattled too easily and is a hot head. Most great QBs have a naturally calm personality, and Cassel has admitted he doesn't possess that trait.

My old man, before the season started, said he didn't understand why they brought Cassel in the first place.
He watches football but he doesn't get deep in to it like I do, spending a lot of time at message boards and the like.
So he says, "I thought that guy they had was pretty good". And of course I said "Thigpen"?!
He says "no, the other guy". And I said "Brodie"?! And he says "yeah; he has a pretty good arm and was playing pretty well against New England before he got hurt".

So I proceeded to explain to him Brodie's history of injury and how he wasn't a reliable option, and that Cassel gave us the best chance of the three to win some games, but in the end my old man wasn't swayed.

I'm thinking I should call my old man and apologize to him.

ChiefsCountry · 11-17-2009, 12:41 AM

The only way Croyle sees the field is if Cassel gets hurt. No way does Pioli allow Haley to sub Croyle in. Heck the one game they put Guitteraz in to avoid it.

KCrockaholic · 11-17-2009, 12:47 AM

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You say some really ****ing dumb things but this takes the cake.

I think he was talking about Jay Cutler... I hope.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-17-2009, 12:54 AM

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The only way Croyle sees the field is if Cassel gets hurt. No way does Pioli allow Haley to sub Croyle in. Heck the one game they put Guitteraz in to avoid it.

Well it's neither here nor there to me. I have no investment in Croyle, emotional or otherwise.
I just kind of wonder, after Baltimore, if he really belongs in purgatory with the Chiefs.

And to your interest, I caught some of the Lions/Vikings game on Sunday. Stafford is starting to show some flashes with that team now. I think he's going to be more than fine in a few years. That kid's got some Elway in him, and it's starting to show up. Beautiful play and pass in to the end zone from the 20 to the other receiver/not CJ.

And he was taking some pops too from that Minnesota defense!

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-17-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

You say some really ****ing dumb things but this takes the cake.

and your opinion changes so much it's like you make a choice by targeting a bucket with certain names of players or views to jockey then you proceed to aim at said bucket to piss in for distance and the bucket you hit with the player or opinion in mind gets the go ahead to be the ultimate truth passed down from God then Larry Johnson then to you to save us all as gospel.

KCrockaholic · 11-17-2009, 01:54 AM

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Well it's neither here nor there to me. I have no investment in Croyle, emotional or otherwise.
I just kind of wonder, after Baltimore, if he really belongs in purgatory with the Chiefs.

And to your interest, I caught some of the Lions/Vikings game on Sunday. Stafford is starting to show some flashes with that team now. I think he's going to be more than fine in a few years. That kid's got some Elway in him, and it's starting to show up. Beautiful play and pass in to the end zone from the 20 to the other receiver/not CJ.

And he was taking some pops too from that Minnesota defense!

I watched the entire game. Stafford looked like a young rookie QB with some promise. His receiver did not help him at all. The drops are horrendous on that team. He will be good one day. I prefered him over Sanchez in the draft, we'll see how they turn up.

11-16-2009, 11:32 PM
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1747293	Bill Maas: Cassel = Grbac Said it today on 610. Said that Cassel is not a "general" on the field; not a leader of men. Maas said while he's tall and has a strong arm (looks the part), he doesn't have the personality or mental makeup to be a leader or a great qb. His only hope is to be surrounded by talent and not get in the way of that talent. Grbac.
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11-17-2009, 12:14 AM	#17
Tribal Warfare Man of Culture Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $-3047187	Maas has been saying this since the NY Giants game. __________________
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11-17-2009, 12:27 AM	#20
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1641248	Where was the KC media in February when Pioli made the dumbest trade of his tenure?
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11-17-2009, 12:29 AM	#21
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $-1747705 VARSITY	Maas is usually pretty good, but he's forcing it here. All signs I've seen point to Cassel being much more level-headed and generally self-confident than Grbac. Grbac was a weekly distraction. Coaches and other players were always having to talk him up. "I can't throw the ball and catch it, too" is something you would never, ever hear Cassel say.
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11-17-2009, 12:41 AM	#26
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1641248	The only way Croyle sees the field is if Cassel gets hurt. No way does Pioli allow Haley to sub Croyle in. Heck the one game they put Guitteraz in to avoid it.
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