NFL Draft Walter's Weekly Draft Update... - Page 2

Coogs · 11-20-2009, 02:06 PM

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

Chiefs Picks...

1st Berry S Tennessee
2nd Fox OT Miami
2nd Dwyer RB Georgia Tech
3rd Williams NT Tennessee

Not bad!

shitgoose · 11-20-2009, 02:32 PM

Upon further review I think it would be hard not to take Spikes over Dwyer if Spikes were available that late in the second round.

**The Franchise** · 11-20-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

If you click on the link and check out the picks, there are several guys available at each of our 2nd and our 3rd round picks who would be pretty hard to pass up at that point. In fact, looking at it, I am not sure I would come close to going with what Walter did, but it would not be totally bad either.

Berry
Hughes
Spikes
Williams

That wouldn't be bad either, BUT

That means the O-line doesn't get addressed until round 4.

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Originally Posted by philfree

That would go along way to fixing the defense but we have to address the O line with one of those picks. I'd probably drop Spikes in lieu of an O lineman. The main thing is for those four picks no mmatter who we pick to actually work out. Which is where Pioli needs to step up and hit a couple home runs.

PhilFree

That could be a possibility if we do some work in FA. We could go out and get Logan Mankins to play the RG position. If O'Callaghan can some how improve this year....then he might be able to work at RT next year. We could easily grab a center in the 4th round.

RippedmyFlesh · 11-20-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Unfortunately, that's not going to happen.

With an uncapped year ahead, everyone who was slated to be an UFA now has additional year of service.

Free agency will be very, very thin.

Yep not alot of "big" names that's for sure.
This was one of the few articles I have seen listing them.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

Tackles

Starting tackles get paid, but this bunch includes mostly guys who were already on the street looking for jobs last season and into this season, with Chad Clifton (suffering through an injury-plagued season) the lone real exception.

Chad Clifton, Mike Gandy, Brandon Gorin, Cornell Green, Artis Hicks, Jon Jansen, Levi Jones, Scott Kooistra, Damion McIntosh, Tony Pashos, Ephraim Salaam, Barry Sims, Mark Tauscher, Langston Walker, Mike Williams.
Guards

What if interior linemen are more your thing? Okay, here's all the guards and centers. Again, hard to find someone you can count on to be a solid starter at this point. Kevin Mawae is the stud of the bunch, but he's 38.

Eugene Amano, Jeremy Bridges, Damion Cook, Kynan Forney, Rex Hadnot, Ben Hamilton, Russ Hochstein, Montrae Holland, Stephen Neal, Chester Pitts, Tutan Reyes, Ryan Tucker, Keydrick Vincent, Bobbie Williams, Billy Yates.

Centers

Nick Leckey, Kevin Mawae, Seth McKinney, Dennis Norman, Wade Smith, John Wade.

philfree · 11-20-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Nothing wrong with that. O-linemen don't have to be taken high.

We'd better take o line high and low if we are really going to try and fix it. Not with our 1st pick but with one of seconds or are third and then with one or two of our fifths.

PhilFree

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

That could be a possibility if we do some work in FA. We could go out and get Logan Mankins to play the RG position. If O'Callaghan can some how improve this year....then he might be able to work at RT next year. We could easily grab a center in the 4th round.

I really think that the RG position is Colin Brown's to lose next year

**The Franchise** · 11-20-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I really think that the RG position is Colin Brown's to lose next year

Even better.

Well honestly it could get even better. Harris could actually take over Water's spot as well.

Direckshun · 11-20-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I really think that the RG position is Colin Brown's to lose next year

I think so, too.

Chiefnj2 · 11-20-2009, 02:37 PM

Using that latest draft:
1. Berry.
2a. Hughes or Graham.
2b. Spikes or Iupati
3. Johnson/Williams/Gilyard.

You could easily get through the first 3 rounds without addressing the OL which wouldn't be good.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

We'd better take o line high and low if we are really going to try and fix it. Not with our 1st pick but with one of seconds or are third and then with one or two of our fifths.

PhilFree

I think that center is the biggest need on the O-line right now and it's possible that O'Dowd will be there with the late second pick. He'll likely be there with the first second round pick, unless he skyrockets up the boards after the combine.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Even better.

Well honestly it could get even better. Harris could actually take over Water's spot as well.

Absolutely.

I'd love to see Albert/Harris/Draft Choice/Brown/Draft Choice.

The question is does Haley have the balls to do that? Stick Cassel out there behind a young offensive line?

**The Franchise** · 11-20-2009, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Absolutely.

I'd love to see Albert/Harris/Draft Choice/Brown/Draft Choice.

The question is does Haley have the balls to do that? Stick Cassel out there behind a young offensive line?

Does he have a choice?

If he walks out this offensive line next year:

Albert/Waters/Niswanger/Goff/O'Callaghan

Then Cassel is going to get killed.....and Haley is going to get fired. He HAS to know that the offensive line has to change next year. Goff is done. Waters is on his last legs and Niswanger doesn't deserve the starting spot.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-20-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Does he have a choice?

If he walks out this offensive line next year:

Albert/Waters/Niswanger/Goff/O'Callaghan

Then Cassel is going to get killed.....and Haley is going to get fired. He HAS to know that the offensive line has to change next year. Goff is done. Waters is on his last legs and Niswanger doesn't deserve the starting spot.

While I'm in total agreement with your supposition, the mere fact that Goof started 8 games while Allemen and NSukwe were picking splinters out their respective asses makes me wonder.

Oh, and the fact that Wade Smith is clearly the most athletic center (and probably right guard and tackle), yet he's relegated to the bench, week in and week out.

I'm not backing Haley's vision with the O-line to this point.

philfree · 11-20-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Absolutely.

I'd love to see Albert/Harris/Draft Choice/Brown/Draft Choice.

The question is does Haley have the balls to do that? Stick Cassel out there behind a young offensive line?

It couldn't be any worse then this years line. And if they put that same line on the field ticket sales will drop like a rock. For the sake of the franchise they have to address the o line.

PhilFree

keg in kc · 11-20-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The question is does Haley have the balls to do that? Stick Cassel out there behind a young offensive line?

That's a rhetorical question, right? I think the balls question has already been answered. I mean, the guy's already been sacked, what, 30 times in half a season (out week 1...)? How much worse would a young offensive line be, assuming it was a young line with some talent...

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-20-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I really think that the RG position is Colin Brown's to lose next year

I sure as hell hope so. I'd like to see something come out of this past draft other than a ****ing kicker.

Sad when the guy taken 256th overall is making more of an impact than any of our other draft choices or FA acquisitions.

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