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Old 11-23-2009, 08:54 AM  
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A few random observations after reviewing the game

1. The Steelers are dirty pricks. Hines Ward, Heath Miller, whoever the one who sucks the penis was that walloped Cassel WELL after his shovel TD pass was released - dirty pricks. Late hits all over the place. We should have been moved up 15 yards on the kickoff after that late hit on Cassel's TD. For shame.

2. The Chiefs scored their first offensive touchdown (Pope) with a particular play. They ran the exact same play, with slightly different personnel, on Chambers 61-yard catch and run. I couldn't believe it. On the first snap, obviously Chambers was covered short, and the Steelers screwed up the deep coverage. On the second snap, the Steelers had the deep receivers crossing covered up, and Chambers came free underneath. Props to Haley for drawing up something that works so well?

3. Derrick Johnson is going to be the lead on GIF'D UP this week. Not even close. He missed so many tackles yesterday it made me sick, and obviously he screwed up the coverage on Mendenhall's short TD catch. **** it, he's a bust. Time to cut losses and move on. Belcher and Mays may not make as many huge plays but they have been FAR more consistent.

4. Branden Albert played a much, much better game this week. The tape might show that he allowed two sacks, but the second one was really Cassel holding onto the ball too long. The first was off play action. I thought other than those two plays he was very solid. O'Callaghan did not fare as well.

5. The play that everyone may be forgetting about is 3rd and 2 down by the goalline, right before we tied it up. They gave Charles the ball and there was NOWHERE to run. He created on his own, got outside, and 2nd effort got the first down. Simply put, a play LJ never would have come close to making. Wow, if Charles doesn't pull that out of his ass, does Haley go for it? Or does he puss out and Herm it up?

6. The OTHER play everyone may be forgetting about is the deflected pass by Tyson Jackson. From what it looked like to me, he had Heath Miller wide open down the middle with room to run. If T-Jack doesn't get a paw on that ball, Miller puts the Steelers in FG range with under a minute left in regulation. Sometimes, it truly is the little things.

7. Brian Waters is the most penalized guard in the entire NFL. He has seven penalties this year, but I didn't realize how bad that was until I compared him to the other guards (via Pro Football Focus and stats.com). He's washed up. I hope he's not back next season.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:46 PM   #31
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I liked the play where Studebaker took on a double team during a pitch, broke through, forced the runner inside and caught a leg till helped showed up.

He had a great game.

We have had 4 or 5 guys IMO that have stepped up in the past few weeks that seem to be eliminating the immediate need for replacement in the draft next April.

Chambers at WR
Long at WR
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:47 PM   #32
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I only caught glimpses of the game due to unreliable streams but I was under the impression DJ was having a good game. Didn't he blow up a couple of plays in the backfield and get at the QB pretty well?
No. Lost. Out of pos. Missed a ton of tackles. As usual. DJ is the last of the missed tackle gang. Mike Brown is going to be replaced, and he came in later, but Wesley, Pollard, and DJ being gone are all good things, I believe, but I still say they should try to turn DJ into a pass rush specialist. He's quick, fast, and is good at GOING AROUND blockers. I don't think he would be that great, but it's worth a try, and if we could rack up some sacks for him, we may be able to get something for him, or find a new job/spot for him.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:50 PM   #33
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We have had 4 or 5 guys IMO that have stepped up in the past few weeks that seem to be eliminating the immediate need for replacement in the draft next April.

Chambers at WR
Long at WR
Charles at RB
Studebaker at OLB
Belcher at MLB
I still think STUDebaker, and Belcher are nothing more than serviceable backups, which is OK I guess, but upgrades are badly needed.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:54 PM   #34
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We have had 4 or 5 guys IMO that have stepped up in the past few weeks that seem to be eliminating the immediate need for replacement in the draft next April.

Chambers at WR
Long at WR
Charles at RB
Studebaker at OLB
Belcher at MLB
Charles has been doing OK at running back, but do you think he is a grind it out kind of guy when we need to run the clock? Or an especially good goal line back? Obviuosly that situation hasn't presented itself this season but I don't really think he is either.

Not only that, but the depth at RB is pretty thin IMO. I don't think a high pick is warranted, but it would hurt to take a goal-line/move the chains type guy.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:57 PM   #35
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We have had 4 or 5 guys IMO that have stepped up in the past few weeks that seem to be eliminating the immediate need for replacement in the draft next April.

Chambers at WR
Long at WR
Charles at RB
Studebaker at OLB
Belcher at MLB
Good teams never eliminate the need for drafting replacements. That doesn't mean that you have to take those positions high in the draft....but you shouldn't just eliminate them from the draft either. We still need a WR and we still need LBs.
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Old 11-23-2009, 01:59 PM   #37
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I love it when a d-linemen is able to get his hand up and bat a ball down. It just seems demoralizing when you don't even get a CHANCE to catch the ball.
EASILY, the most under-rated aspect of this year's defense. I can't remember seeing so many batted balls since the Marty-era. I absolutely love it and see this as one of the subtle signs of improvement.
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:02 PM   #38
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Charles has been doing OK at running back, but do you think he is a grind it out kind of guy when we need to run the clock? Or an especially good goal line back? Obviuosly that situation hasn't presented itself this season but I don't really think he is either.

Not only that, but the depth at RB is pretty thin IMO. I don't think a high pick is warranted, but it would hurt to take a goal-line/move the chains type guy.
I don't hate our current crop, but we DO have a poor-man's version of Dallas' trio. Of course, Barber, Jones and Choice are superior to Charles, Smith and Savage. However, I think we can get away with this until we absolutely need to upgrade. I actually think Charles could be pretty above-average if our o-line gets fixed in the next year or two.
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:07 PM   #39
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7. Brian Waters is the most penalized guard in the entire NFL. He has seven penalties this year, but I didn't realize how bad that was until I compared him to the other guards (via Pro Football Focus and stats.com). He's washed up. I hope he's not back next season.
The myth of Brian Waters. His "talent" always escaped my notice...maybe because he played next to a hall-of-famer for most of his career. Funny how his play has declined since Roaf has been gone.
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Old 11-23-2009, 02:08 PM   #40
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The myth of Brian Waters. His "talent" always escaped my notice...maybe because he played next to a hall-of-famer for most of his career. Funny how his play has declined since Roaf has been gone.
It didnt really even decline...It freefall plummeted.
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Good teams never eliminate the need for drafting replacements. That doesn't mean that you have to take those positions high in the draft....but you shouldn't just eliminate them from the draft either. We still need a WR and we still need LBs.
I think the appropriate thing to do is weigh it out over time. There is still alot of football left to be played. So it's a wait and see sort of thing how some of these guys will pan out over time. It could change the teams plans as to what they will draft in April? We'll see.

Im happy they're giving guys like Studebaker, Belcher, and Long chances. This is the positive of being a crappy team. Play several guys throughout your roster to see what you have. If you're gonna be crap, at least get a feel for your roster? And the greatest thing is, they have nothing to lose in the process. I give this current regime some credit for that.
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Old 11-23-2009, 03:40 PM   #43
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Wow. Weird. I don't even remember that being announced.
it wasn't. there was a lot of confusion on the broadcast about what the penalty was. we only found out it was on gilberry for something.
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Good teams never eliminate the need for drafting replacements. That doesn't mean that you have to take those positions high in the draft....but you shouldn't just eliminate them from the draft either. We still need a WR and we still need LBs.
We need TALENT at every posititon.
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There was no penalty on that play. DJ got a half sack.
I think he meant the one where DJ was off the ground with the fullback sandwiched in between him and Big Ben. There was a 5 yard penalty for something then, but they never announced what it was.
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