Why people are disappointed: Exhibit A - Talent Evaluation

[tyler360]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

It absolutely can be discounted.

NFL owners have been chasing Pioli for years. He turned them all down to stay in NE.

You're going to try to convince me that when he finally takes a job, and leaves NE, he decides on a place where the owner tells him to fix his team, but not spend money?

The owner told them to not fire Chan Gailey. I could easily see Clark saying well we have a high draft pick to sign and a qb to lock up and the stadium renovations to deal with also. We just dont have the money to sign big $ free agents

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by tyler360

The owner told them to not fire Chan Gailey. I could easily see Clark saying well we have a high draft pick to sign and a qb to lock up and the stadium renovations to deal with also. We just dont have the money to sign big $ free agents

This is nonsense

[tyler360]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

This is nonsense

I guess i dont understand why it is so hard to believe that this happened? I am not saying it did happen but it has to be considered a possibility.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by tyler360

I guess i dont understand why it is so hard to believe that this happened? I am not saying it did happen but it has to be considered a possibility.

You should consider the possibility that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

[tyler360]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You should consider the possibility that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Could you give an actual reason instead of just calling me dumb?

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by tyler360

Could you give an actual reason instead of just calling me dumb?

READING IS FUNDAMENTAL.

Reasons gave been given. Quit ignoring them, and read.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by tyler360

Could you give an actual reason instead of just calling me dumb?

read the ****ing thread!!

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by tyler360

Could you give an actual reason instead of just calling me dumb?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...5&postcount=56

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You should consider the possibility that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Does George Blowfish not know what he's talking about?

Originally Posted by gblowfish

Well, let me put it this way. The Hunt family is not about winning championships. Ever since they won one in 1969, and Lamar got put in the HOF in 1972, the Chiefs have been on cruise control. It's been nothing more than a business to make money first and foremost. As long as they turn a profit, the Hunts are happy. That's why King Carl lasted 20 years. He made piles and piles of money. This year has been about one thing: Stadium renovation. I've said this over and over, and it doesn't seem to sink in. Know what next year is about? Finishing the stadium renovation. Then the year after that it will be trying to get to .500 to keep enough fan interest to keep making money. We are the Chicago Cubs of the NFL. Despair springs eternal.

Dane, you said we're $41M under the cap, and I swear I just saw something posted earlier where Clark's contributions to the renovations is $40M, if that's true don't you think it's just a little more than a coincidence?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Does George Blowfish not know what he's talking about?



Dane, you said we're $41M under the cap, and I swear I just saw something posted earlier where Clark's contributions to the renovations is $40M, if that's true don't you think it's just a little more than a coincidence?

Actually in December 2008, Hunt dropped another $75 million of his personal money into the stadium renovations and at that point, I posted that we'd see little if any free agency movement.

But that's NOT because of a lack of money. It's because the Hunts are notoriously cheap.

Furthermore, like OTWP stated, I highly doubt that after years of being pursued for a GM position, Scott Pioli would take a job with the caveat of not being able to spend money.

For proof, they shelled out over $30 million alone this year for Cassel and Jackson.

I personally believe that Pioli & Haley not only did a poor job of evaluating the talent available in the 2009 draft, but they also did a poor job of evaluating the existing talent on the roster.

Starting Niswanger and cutting Pollard being just two examples.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Actually in December 2008, Hunt dropped another $75 million of his personal money into the stadium renovations and at that point, I posted that we'd see little if any free agency movement.

But that's NOT because of a lack of money. It's because the Hunts are notoriously cheap.

Furthermore, like OTWP stated, I highly doubt that after years of being pursued for a GM position, Scott Pioli would take a job with the caveat of not being able to spend money.

For proof, they shelled out over $30 million alone this year for Cassel and Jackson.

I personally believe that Pioli & Haley not only did a poor job of evaluating the talent available in the 2009 draft, but they also did a poor job of evaluating the existing talent on the roster.

Starting Niswanger and cutting Pollard being just two examples.

The thing is, the two statements I bolded (which I both believe to be true) contradict each other. Something just doesn't add up here.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Actually in December 2008, Hunt dropped another $75 million of his personal money into the stadium renovations and at that point, I posted that we'd see little if any free agency movement.

But that's NOT because of a lack of money. It's because the Hunts are notoriously cheap.

Furthermore, like OTWP stated, I highly doubt that after years of being pursued for a GM position, Scott Pioli would take a job with the caveat of not being able to spend money.

For proof, they shelled out over $30 million alone this year for Cassel and Jackson.

I personally believe that Pioli & Haley not only did a poor job of evaluating the talent available in the 2009 draft, but they also did a poor job of evaluating the existing talent on the roster.

Starting Niswanger and cutting Pollard being just two examples.

But Dane, they'd rather have guys who are good citizens and don't talk back to coaches over talented players.

It took an injury to get Goff out of the lineup, and interestingly enough, ever since he's been out, Cassel's time to throw has almost ****ing tripled.

It took some gay slurs to get LJ out of the lineup, and what do you know, the running game is producing.

We're in an evaluation year, yet they won't give playing time to the players that need to be evaluated.

I'm starting to think Whitlock was right about the "ego" thing - can't wait to see the piece he puts together after the Denver game.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by tyler360

I guess i dont understand why it is so hard to believe that this happened? I am not saying it did happen but it has to be considered a possibility.

No, it doesn't.

Unless you think Pioli is the mother of all dumbasses.

He passed on the GM job for one of the best run organizations in the NFL a few years back, and you're telling me he's going to take a job to rebuild a POS, and be OK with being told he can't spend the money to do so?

I've seen some stupid things claimed here today, but this might take the cake.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

He passed on the GM job for one of the best run organizations in the NFL a few years back, and you're telling me he's going to take a job to rebuild a POS, and be OK with being told he can't spend the money to do so?

Yep the Seattle job with Microsoft money behind it.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Yep the Seattle job with Microsoft money behind it.

Actually, I was talking about the Giants job after Ernie Accorsi retired.

But another example, nonetheless.