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Old 12-15-2009, 11:20 AM  
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Updated Draft selection order
PRELIMINARY 2010 FIRST-ROUND DRAFT SELECTION ORDER


December 15, 2009

(F indicates coin flip required to break tie; Note opposition W-L % based on all 16 opponents this season)
#
 Team
 W-L
 Opp W-L %
1 St. Louis 1-12
 .548
2 Tampa Bay 1-12 .563
3
 		Cleveland 2-11 .519
4
Detroit
 2-11 .534
5
Kansas City
 3-10 .519
6
Washington
 4-9 .486
7 Oakland 4-9 .514
8
Seattle 5-8 .471
9
 		Denver (from Chicago) 5-8 .495
10
 Buffalo 5-8 .510
11 San Francisco (from Carolina) 5-8
 .548
12 Pittsburgh 6-7 .486
13
 San Francisco 6-7 .490
14 Atlanta
 6-7 .500
15 Houston 6-7 .538
16
 Tennessee 6-7 .553
17 Jacksonville 7-6 .490
18 Baltimore
7-6
 .514
19
 New York Jets
 7-6
 .529
20
 New York Giants 7-6 .534
21 Miami 7-6 .543
22 Arizona 8-5 .447
23
 Dallas 8-5 .500
24 Seattle (from Denver) 8-5 .514
25 New England 8-5 .529
26
 Green Bay 9-4 .428
27
 Cincinnati 9-4 .457
28 Philadelphia 9-4 .476
29
 San Diego 10-3 .457
30
 		Minnesota 11-2 .423
31
 New Orleans 13-0 .394
32
 Indianapolis
 		13-0 .481


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Old 12-15-2009, 07:25 PM   #121
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And 7-2 offsuit will win you a hand occasionally.

There are two spread QB's in the history of the league that have been successful. The odds are overwhelmingly against a spread QB succeeding.
Well, there is Kyle Orton too.....wait....you win.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:30 PM   #122
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He could easily play on the other side of the 3-4 from Hali, and be a lot better at it.
Hold on.

You really think it's a good idea to spend three consecutive Top 5 picks - and over $100M - on guys that play a comlementary position?
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:41 PM   #123
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You know that Drew Brees was a spread QB, right?
you know that Brady is basically a spread QB
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:43 PM   #124
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you know that Brady is basically a spread QB
Brady played in the spread at Michigan?
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:52 PM   #125
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you know that Brady is basically a spread QB
So New England ran the spread last year? So basically what you are saying is that the spread offense inflates the stats and possibly the value of a QB. And their value can't be accurately evaluated based on their time in the spread (like last year)? If that is true, no one in their right mind would ever trade a 2nd round pick for a spread QB and give him $61MM. That would be insane.
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Old 12-15-2009, 07:54 PM   #126
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Brady played in the spread at Michigan?
Brady is enjoying most of his Hall of fame success in the pros running a spread.
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So New England ran the spread last year? So basically what you are saying is that the spread offense inflates the stats and possibly the value of a QB. And their value can't be accurately evaluated based on their time in the spread (like last year)? If that is true, no one in their right mind would ever trade a 2nd round pick for a spread QB and give him $61MM. That would be insane.
well ... yes

or you better be prepared to run the same system he enjoyed the success in so that you get your money's worth.
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Brady is enjoying most of his Hall of fame success in the pros running a spread.
And the conversation you felt compelled to chime in on was referring to DRAFTING a spread QB - and understanding how they are at a disadvantage making the adjustment into the pros.
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And the conversation you felt compelled to chime in on was referring to DRAFTING a spread QB - and understanding how they are at a disadvantage making the adjustment into the pros.
actually i responded to BigBucks ... not you.
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well ... yes

or you better be prepared to run the same system he enjoyed the success in so that you get your money's worth.
So it would be even more insane (is there such a phrase?) to trade for a spread QB, pay him $61MM and then ask him to work out of a pro style offense?
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Hold on.

You really think it's a good idea to spend three consecutive Top 5 picks - and over $100M - on guys that play a comlementary position?
When you have as many holes as the Chiefs you draft BPA. For once it could be in a position that we need (unlike our reaches the last two seasons).
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So it would be even more insane (is there such a phrase?) to trade for a spread QB, pay him $61MM and then ask him to work out of a pro style offense?
Yes. That's why Gimpy works out the shotgun.
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When you have as many holes as the Chiefs you draft BPA. For once it could be in a position that we need (unlike our reaches the last two seasons).
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So it would be even more insane (is there such a phrase?) to trade for a spread QB, pay him $61MM and then ask him to work out of a pro style offense?
yes ... at the least considered very reckless.

Be it the draft or free agency, watching a player perform in one system and then expecting him to succeed in another is risky at best.
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When you have as many holes as the Chiefs you draft BPA. For once it could be in a position that we need (unlike our reaches the last two seasons).
Thanks Matt Millen.
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