Advising a friend.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I'm reeruned. What is that?

Volkswagen CC

Built on Passat frame, but longer and sleeker. Also has bucket seats in the back instead of a bench.

Rides as nice as my cousin's Mercedes E350 coupe, and at almost half the price.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Volkswagen CC

Built on Passat frame, but longer and sleeker. Also has bucket seats in the back instead of a bench.

Rides as nice as my cousin's Mercedes E350 coupe, and at almost half the price.

Nice. You may have noticed that I'm not a car guy (especially for a 31 y/o). I've got a six figure income, and my wife's car and my car combined probably aren't worth $10,000. They both look nice and drive perfectly, though.

I just can't justify shelling out money for a new car. (To myself. Nothing against anyone else buying one.) I bought mine for about $17,500 when it was 3-4 years old with 36,000 miles. It was in mint condition and would have run close to $40,000 new. I figure I'll hang onto it for about 3 more years and unload it. If I can get $1,500 for it, that puts it at under $200 per month.

My wife bought her car right out of college for $8,000. We'll probably get rid of hers about the same time as mine. (By then, all of the people who can't afford their cash for clunkers car should be unloading them for a song.) Her cost will be about $100 a month.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Nice. You may have noticed that I'm not a car guy (especially for a 31 y/o). I've got a six figure income, and my wife's car and my car combined probably aren't worth $10,000. They both look nice and drive perfectly, though.

I just can't justify shelling out money for a new car. (To myself. Nothing against anyone else buying one.) I bought mine for about $17,500 when it was 3-4 years old with 36,000 miles. It was in mint condition and would have run close to $40,000 new. I figure I'll hang onto it for about 3 more years and unload it. If I can get $1,500 for it, that puts it at under $200 per month.

My wife bought her car right out of college for $8,000. We'll probably get rid of hers about the same time as mine. (By then, all of the people who can't afford their cash for clunkers car should be unloading them for a song.) Her cost will be about $100 a month.

I understand, and admire that.

Our other car is paid off, and still in great shape, so we just have the one payment.

What I don't get are the people that have extravagant cars and can't afford them. You know, the people that live in a trailer park, but drive a $60,000 F-350 Dually with every available option to their job cleaning bathrooms in an office complex.

But hey, to each their own.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I understand, and admire that.

Our other car is paid off, and still in great shape, so we just have the one payment.

What I don't get are the people that have extravagant cars and can't afford them. You know, the people that live in a trailer park, but drive a $60,000 F-350 Dually with every available option to their job cleaning bathrooms in an office complex.

But hey, to each their own.

There's a reason they live in a trailer park. Personal finance really isn't that difficult.

[wild1]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Nice. You may have noticed that I'm not a car guy (especially for a 31 y/o). I've got a six figure income, and my wife's car and my car combined probably aren't worth $10,000. They both look nice and drive perfectly, though.

I just can't justify shelling out money for a new car. (To myself. Nothing against anyone else buying one.) I bought mine for about $17,500 when it was 3-4 years old with 36,000 miles.

Ditto... except the car I'm driving now cost $12,000.

When I think of what colleagues are throwing away per month on their cars, I don't know if I should laugh or cry. Some of them are spending $500 and up every month on a car payment. Just one car, not even counting the spouse. They've probably flushed $100,000 or more in the last 10 years.

[Fairplay]

You are known by the company you keep.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Fairplay

You are known by the company you keep.

And I'm damn certain your friends regret that...
And while we're at it... That applies to the character of an individual not their financial choices, but...
I wouldn't expect you to know that. So I'll just nod and pretend you got it right. No worries.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Fairplay

You are known by the company you keep.

That's it. I'm leaving Chiefsplanet forever. Goodbye, everyone.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

That's it. I'm leaving Chiefsplanet forever. Goodbye, everyone.

Wait....start a thread first before you leave.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Nice. You may have noticed that I'm not a car guy (especially for a 31 y/o). I've got a six figure income, and my wife's car and my car combined probably aren't worth $10,000. They both look nice and drive perfectly, though.

I just can't justify shelling out money for a new car...

We're cut from the same cloth. I have serious issues with new auto purchases. I got my ass kicked on my first car purchase. Newly married (22), two kids, driving a 75 VW Bug. They had me and they knew it.

Since then, I've read everything I could on the subject and followed that up with actual practice trips into a dealer ( I was 29) so I could learn to look them in the eye and say "Nope, no thanks". Sounds kinda weird but it really worked.
Now I have neices and nephews that ask me to go with them to the dealer, cause I fuck with them all the time. Especially when they use the "I'll need to talk to the GM about this".
My usual answer to that is : "Oh, does he keep the crystal ball in there? May I tag along? I've always wondered where you kept the all the secrets". Or "Oh, you can't make that decision on your own? Next time just take me right to his office, and we'll skip the formalities".

It's fun to bend their minds a bit.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

We're cut from the same cloth. I have serious issues with new auto purchases. I got my ass kicked on my first car purchase. Newly married (22), two kids, driving a 75 VW Bug. They had me and they knew it.

Since then, I've read everything I could on the subject and followed that up with actual practice trips into a dealer ( I was 29) so I could learn to look them in the eye and say "Nope, no thanks". Sounds kinda weird but it really worked.
Now I have neices and nephews that ask me to go with them to the dealer, cause I fuck with them all the time. Especially when they use the "I'll need to talk to the GM about this".
My usual answer to that is : "Oh, does he keep the crystal ball in there? May I tag along? I've always wondered where you kept the all the secrets". Or "Oh, you can't make that decision on your own? Next time just take me right to his office, and we'll skip the formalities".

It's fun to bend their minds a bit.

I helped a friend buy a car that he was in love with about 7 years ago. The GM at the dealership all but took a swing at me. He wound up getting an incredible deal on the car, but he was literally willing to pay about 25-30% more than what he did.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I helped a friend buy a car that he was in love with about 7 years ago. The GM at the dealership all but took a swing at me. He wound up getting an incredible deal on the car, but he was literally willing to pay about 25-30% more than what he did.

God damn, that's hilarious.

"Sir, you can't go back there". (to the GM's office)

"I can't? Is there some kind of violation for going back there. Is it a HIPAA violation"?

"A what"?

"HIPAA. It's a .. forget it. I'd like to go back with you while you talk to the GM".

"We don't allow that".

"What? Why? Is there a dead body back there or is that where you bury the truth"?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

We're cut from the same cloth. I have serious issues with new auto purchases. I got my ass kicked on my first car purchase. Newly married (22), two kids, driving a 75 VW Bug. They had me and they knew it.

Since then, I've read everything I could on the subject and followed that up with actual practice trips into a dealer ( I was 29) so I could learn to look them in the eye and say "Nope, no thanks". Sounds kinda weird but it really worked.
Now I have neices and nephews that ask me to go with them to the dealer, cause I fuck with them all the time. Especially when they use the "I'll need to talk to the GM about this".
My usual answer to that is : "Oh, does he keep the crystal ball in there? May I tag along? I've always wondered where you kept the all the secrets". Or "Oh, you can't make that decision on your own? Next time just take me right to his office, and we'll skip the formalities".

It's fun to bend their minds a bit.

It seems to me like there's a business opportunity for someone to be a professional car negotiator. I'd pay a commission to someone if I could trust them to get me the best price, because I'm pretty sure that I'd save money over negotiating myself, even with the commission included. Buying a car is one of the most unpleasant experiences a person can have outside a Turkish prison.