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Boyceofsummer · 12-17-2009, 12:17 PM

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Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley

by Matt Conner

Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite.

My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season.

It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch.

More after the jump:

Star-divide
Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach.

Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold.

We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-17-2009, 05:19 PM

These arguements about last years team being better than this season, or vice versa, is hilarious to me. Suck is suck. How gives a **** who would win?

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

The thread is about Haley and AVAILABLE COACHES you ****ing reerun, NOT BILL ****ING WALSH OR ANY OTHER DEAD ****ING COACH YOU ASSHOLE.

Roger that.....

Coward can go **** himself... I hope to god he never steps foot on the KC sidelines in my lifetime...

ToxSocks · 12-17-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Last year's team could score points.

Last year's team lost 8 games by 7 points or less.

Last year's team featured a competent offense and offensive coordinator.

Last year's team had Tony Gonzalez.

THIS year's team can't hold a team to less than 500 yards of offense and CANNOT score.

You're out of your mind if you think that this year's defense would stop last year's offense.

Not a ****ing chance.

The only way i could reason last years team beating this years is Chan Gaily. He made better use of Bowe/Gonzalez. Without Chan, last years team would've been worse then Detroit.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I know that your hatred for Herm runs deep but JFC, did Herm EVER do something as stupid as punting from his OWN 20?

Haley gets the Dumbass Coach of the Decade for that shit.

And your new hatred of everything Pioli and Haley does or doesnt do to yours, OTWP and Mecca's liking is quickly catching mine hatred of Herm...

Sounds like we need to have some beers and wings and talk about the good ol days...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-17-2009, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

These arguements about last years team being better than this season, or vice versa, is hilarious to me. Suck is suck. How gives a **** who would win?

Agreed.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

And your new hatred of everything Pioli and Haley does or doesnt do to yours, OTWP and Mecca's liking is quickly catching mine hatred of Herm...

Sounds like we need to have some beers and wings and talk about the good ol days...

I don't "hate" Haley and Pioli.

I just think that this year, they've proven to be highly incompetent. The decision making both on the field and in the front office has been laughable at times.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't "hate" Haley and Pioli.

I just think that this year, they've proven to be highly incompetent. The decision making both on the field and in the front office has been laughable at times.

Dont dispute the facts at all... But nothing worse that was we have dealt with prior....

IMO, this year was a financial wash on the field because of the jack Hunt is spending on improvements...

They werent going to go out and spend a shit ton of jack. Thus look at the product on the field. None of us know for sure, that is just my opinion....

Now if they do this 2 years in a row, then I am going to unleash the phury on them... Herm style....

Deberg_1990 · 12-17-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

IMO, this year was a financial wash on the field because of the jack Hunt is spending on improvements...

They werent going to go out and spend a shit ton of jack. Thus look at the product on the field. None of us know for sure, that is just my opinion....

Not going to spend money?? Didnt they spend a ton on Cassel??

Quit making excuses for these guys. This year has been a complete failure anyway you try and paint it.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Roger that.....

Coward can go **** himself... I hope to god he never steps foot on the KC sidelines in my lifetime...

Coward?

You might not like him, but that dude can coach. Period.

Yet, we're giving the benefit of the doubt to 4th and 8 from his own 28?

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Coward?

You might not like him, but that dude can coach. Period.

Yet, we're giving the benefit of the doubt to 4th and 8 from his own 28?

I've never seen anyone, outside of Madden or Tecmo Bowl, go for it from his own 28.

That REALLY deserved a thread of its own.

Hell, even Frank Gansz wasn't that ****ing stupid.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Not going to spend money?? Didnt they spend a ton on Cassel??

Quit making excuses for these guys. This year has been a complete failure anyway you try and paint it.

So answer me this? What guidelines did Hunt give Pioli...

I am not making any excuse here, just wanting the facts before I start throwing stones... Dont want to break my glass....

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Coward?

You might not like him, but that dude can coach. Period.

Yet, we're giving the benefit of the doubt to 4th and 8 from his own 28?

Can he coach outside of the pittsburg family? Can he coach with total control like he is going to want?

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've never seen anyone, outside of Madden or Tecmo Bowl, go for it from his own 28.

That REALLY deserved a thread of its own.

Hell, even Frank Gansz wasn't that ****ing stupid.

It's the type of decision that makes it justifiable to fire him on the spot.

It's a microcosm that suggests that he's far too stupid to be in a position of consequence.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2009, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've never seen anyone, outside of Madden or Tecmo Bowl, go for it from his own 28.

That REALLY deserved a thread of its own.

Hell, even Frank Gansz wasn't that ****ing stupid.

Yep and if there was blocking, it might of worked... Very stupid call when it fails, gutsy as hell when it works...

Dont forget Herm lost two, yes two timeouts on the same ****ing challenge... The only person in NFL history to do such....

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Can he coach outside of the pittsburg family? Can he coach with total control like he is going to want?

With total control is a great point. It's a recipe for failure for anyone, IMO.

If The Chin would come here and work for Pioli, I'd trade Haley for him in about .000002 seconds, and this organization would instantly be considerably better.

12-17-2009, 12:17 PM
Boyceofsummer That Doyle, he's a mean-un Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Salina, Kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley http://fwix.com/share/55_c6b76c6022 Too Bad The Chiefs Are Married to Todd Haley by Matt Conner Let me be very, very clear from the outset: the Kansas City Chiefs should not make any changes to their head coaching situation for 2010. Now with that said, let me write an entire article that seems to point to the opposite. My primary thoughts at this time of day are spurred by the ridiculous buzz swirling current NFL head coaching wanna-bes salivating over all kinds of wonderfully desperate situations. The Redskins, Buccaneers, Bills, Bears, Browns, Raiders, Cowboys and more all sit with neon "vacancy" signs up (or pending ones, it seems) and the likes of Mike Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren and hot assistants like Leslie Frazier (Minnesota's defensive coordinator) are all in the spotlight. And that's with a few weeks still left of the regular season. It's the sort of rumors that fans of losing franchises love to read about, considering there's not much on-field product worth pondering. It's also something Kansas City fans must remember from this time a year ago when "what ifs" floated around Arrowhead like Rocky Mountain cloud formations. But unlike last year, this season's coaching candidates are absolutely off the charts in terms of experience, expertise and sheer reputation. And that's a shame the Chiefs cannot be in on this bunch. More after the jump: Star-divide Of course, the Chiefs won the grand prize last year, when the front office candidates available looked like this year's coaching hires. Scott Pioli was the head of the class, the best in the business, and when he shook hands with Clark Hunt, every KC fan (and NFL fan for that matter) knew there were much better days ahead in the City of Fountains. But the same couldn't be said of Pioli's choice for head coach. Now, the Chiefs must sit this off-season with Todd Haley while the most beautiful head coaching class in a long time struts their stuff for teams in need. It's the equivalent of being over the salary cap next summer while having to passively watch the upcoming free agent class of 2010 in the NBA, when LeBron, Chris Bosh and others change permanent addresses. When such options are available, one can't help but wonder what it would look like for a Cowher or Shanahan to walk the sidelines of the red and gold. We've seen unending posts both favoring Todd Haley and slamming the first-year HC. There are valid points to be made on all sides. But we are married. You don't change head coaches that quickly, so we have what we have and the absolute worst move would be to can Haley at this point. He deserves to grow with the job, to see this thing through and fans should understand that. That doesn't mean, however, that we don't look at the current dating scene and wonder what it'd be like to be single again. It's a fine class and even as a non-participant, it should be fun to watch it unfold.
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